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Re: From The Forum issue 183 - Tetris: Best puzzler ever?

Post by The Laird » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:41 pm

CodyJarrett wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:13 pm
NorthWay wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:06 pm
Oh, and as for best Tetris version, there was an Amiga Scene version by a Norwegian (IIRC) that I thought was utterly slick. Exact names escapes me atm.
Twintris or Super Twintris?
There's loads of good PD versions on the 16-bit machines. I particularly liked Teserae on the Atari ST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdKCecXVnu8

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Re: From The Forum issue 183 - Tetris: Best puzzler ever?

Post by mr jenzie » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:12 pm

if my original gameboy had still worked, i'd still be playing it
one of the few games that gave me THE VISION 8)

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Re: From The Forum issue 183 - Tetris: Best puzzler ever?

Post by NorthWay » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:03 pm

CodyJarrett wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:13 pm
Twintris or Super Twintris?
Ah, I'd be guessing on the first. Kinda rings a bell.

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Re: From The Forum issue 183 - Tetris: Best puzzler ever?

Post by joefish » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:16 pm

joefish wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:37 pm
Nope. Got to be Buzzsaw+ (Box Deluxe Mix) on the Spectrum.
This is a completely independent and unbiased opinion, of course. :D :D :D
Seriously though, I like Tetris, but have rather had my fill of it over the years. Personally I think Puzzle Bobble is probably one of the best alternatives out there, particularly for the variety given by the Vs. and Puzzle modes. And though it's a shoot-em-up at the core, Twinkle Star Sprites carries with it the 'PvP strategy' spirit of a lot of falling-block puzzlers.

I really liked the play mechanics of Cosmo Gang the Puzzle / Pac-Attack, but the way the drop sped up far too soon then bizarrely slowed down again was just mad. It's progress model seemed all wrong to me, which is how Buzzsaw came about. I wanted to slow it down at the start to allow for more strategic planning of your moves, as you learn to do with Tetris.

As for Columns, it was a nice try, but rotating the stack of 3 items vertically just didn't work for me. I find a rotating L-shape of 3 items a lot easier to visualise and place, much like the rotating Tetris pieces.

Now, are you including block-swapping puzzles too, as I have had a lot of fun with Zookeeper? Although again, that seems to have a poor progress model. The act of adding one more creature type can makes the puzzle exponentially more difficult, such that you eventually hit a wall where one level is so much harder than the last you just have to give up.

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Re: From The Forum issue 183 - Tetris: Best puzzler ever?

Post by samhain81 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:52 pm

Baku Baku Animal - A great spin on the 'connect 3 or more of the same' puzzler. Lovely animal animations to keep the game fresh and entertaining on each play.

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Re: From The Forum issue 183 - Tetris: Best puzzler ever?

Post by SpecChum81 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:19 pm

It's a tough call between Tetris on the Game Boy or Columns on the Mega Drive. Spent countless hours playing both.
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Re: From The Forum issue 183 - Tetris: Best puzzler ever?

Post by paranoid marvin » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:02 pm

the_hawk wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:40 pm
Tetris is not a puzzle game, there's nothing to solve, it's a twitch reaction arcade game.

But in term of "Tetris style" games, there's been like a billion clones each trying to add their own (Dr) Spin to proceedings.
Although there are some interesting variations, most of the gimmicks are pretty unnecessary & the simplicity of the original still reigns supreme.

I agree, it is not a puzzle game. It doesn't have a solution. If there was some way of knowing or ensuring what the next tiles to appear are, then yes. Stu Campbell said it was more like a shooter than a puzzle game, and I'm inclined to agree (esp if you play it upside down).

Best 'block' game is Twintris, best puzzler (assuming the likes of adventure games don't count) is probably Gremlin's Deflektor. I would have said Split Personalities, but the random dropping-in of hazards may exclude it.
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Re: From The Forum issue 183 - Tetris: Best puzzler ever?

Post by Extraprawns » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:59 pm

Nobody's mentioned Dr Mario? Yeah tetris is a classic but I find Dr Mario(NES) far more creative, with additional game mechanics and an actual objective - wipe out the viruses.

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