Who Loved Type-Ins?

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Who Loved Type-Ins?

Post by Gary Plowman » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:12 pm

Remember browsing through Your Sinclair / Sinclair User and Crash mags doing some Type-Ins at home with them laid in front of you!

Remember screaming at the Telly when they wouldn't run!! :)

NOW you can have all that again!

I am releasing a Kindle and Printed Book of Twenty of my own Type-In Listings of 1 and 2 player games aim at getting people coding and aimed at younger Code Clubs too.

This is about fun and Game Making! So don't expect a manual on Sinclair BASIC...However, I will explain the complicated bits...Binary / UDGs / Arrays etc.

You can get your copy here!
https://goo.gl/bZKiKb


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Re: Who Loved Type-Ins?

Post by Timothy Redux » Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:46 pm

Brilliant - though I think I spent enough hours of my youth typing in listings already. Are these new or from back in the day?
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Re: Who Loved Type-Ins?

Post by Gary Plowman » Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:05 am

All NEW!- my own versions of classics including Breakout, Astral Invaders, Snake, Tetris and original titles like Allotment Wars, Snowball Shootout, ColourStacks and many more...Idea is to provide fun but short games for those looking to get back into BASIC or to try it for the first time :)

Covering easy game making concepts and some intro into speccy graphics and UDGs - How to do Binary etc.
Timothy Redux wrote:Brilliant - though I think I spent enough hours of my youth typing in listings already. Are these new or from back in the day?
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Re: Who Loved Type-Ins?

Post by Bluce_Ree » Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:33 am

Oh god that takes me back. I used to faff about in BASIC a lot back in the day. Working out the totals for each row on user defined graphics. Crikey. I used to be quite good at that given that I was young.

The only magazine type-in that I liked playing was Portals of P'thaal or something.
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Re: Who Loved Type-Ins?

Post by Slackdog » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:45 pm

Blimey - learned more about coding from correcting the typos than I did at college :P
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Re: Who Loved Type-Ins?

Post by station » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:53 am

I remember typing in a listing for my Texas Instruments TI-99 4a from the book that was supplied with the computer. It didn't work so I tore it in the middle and threw it across the room.
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Re: Who Loved Type-Ins?

Post by Katzkatz » Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:26 pm

I don't think I ever did them from the magazines, but I did get a couple of type-in books from the local library and tried them out! They could frustrating at times. I had did a couple for the C64. There was a sort of Moon Lander game in BASIC - and that took forever to get right from the type-in. You also had to remember to save!

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Re: Who Loved Type-Ins?

Post by gunbladelad » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:22 am

Not only did you have to pretty much debug the listings yourself (not so easy when it had a massive chunk of machine code in it, as some listings seemed to be), but I often wound up changing stuff in the listings to see how the program would react to the different code.

It put me in good stead a college - I wound up using a few routines that nobody else on the course knew about during the course - once I'd worked out the relevant commands in COBOL and PASCAL. I must've been the only person that set up the program to scan the keyboard buffer for keypresses (naturally with a "Press any key to continue" prompt") rather than everyone else in the course using an INPUT command with "Press Enter to continue" prompt. It actually surprised the lecturers as they didn't even know the technique I'd used for scanning the keyboard buffer until they read my listings. I guess it was just the kind of thing they'd not come across at that point.
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Re: Who Loved Type-Ins?

Post by Gary Plowman » Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:01 am

It's coming out this month :D
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Re: Who Loved Type-Ins?

Post by Dave300 » Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:20 pm

I had a book full of Atari 8-bit type-in adventures. The trouble was that most of them were fairly simple and you could tell what you had to do to complete the adventure while you were typing it in!

Then there was the joy of receiving a similar book from a (well-meaning but IT-clueless) relative at Christmas/birthday for the wrong platform and you had to try and convert the code on the fly. Would never work unless it was simple BASIC.

But yes, they were a miracle if they ever worked!
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Re: Who Loved Type-Ins?

Post by Doddsy » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:28 pm

Had a few books with type in listings for the oric -1, spectrum and c64. They always had a program titled Biorhythms didn't they and never mind about tape loading errors for games; type ins always had a bug somewhere that rendered your hard work a waste of time. I'm pretty sure you could have taken the faulty book back to WH Smiths and asked for your money back! I suppose half the fun was working out why it didn't work though. Maybe they should bring the type in listing back like they do with those model car kit magazines. I can see it now. Type in the listing for Fallout V. Each month we will release code for you to type in and build up your game from scratch. In two years you will have a completed game with each part as a library for you to collect!

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Re: Who Loved Type-Ins?

Post by The Beans » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:26 pm

Approximately ten billion aeons ago me and my mate spent an entire night typing in a listing on the Spectrum. My memory is a bit hazy but I think it was in Popular Computing Weekly or something with a similar name. It wasn't your typical Speccy type-in. It was a mystery game and it was all just numbers that you typed in. We were drooling considerably over how awesome this machine code mystery game was going to be. We visualised a decent take on Jetpac, maybe a secret level for Manic Miner. The power of machine code would deliver.

It took us nearly all night.

When we ran the program the words "The Fall And Rise Of Idi Amin" appeared on the screen.
Then, with our young and innocent hearts sinking fast, we watched the screen clear and the words "Idi Amin" go from the bottom of the screen to the top of the screen and back down again.
There was a brief pause and then the Speccy reset and our hard and totally pointless work was gone.

Whenever I feel a developer or coder is getting too much stick for the work they've done I remember this type-in to lessen my pity.
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Re: Who Loved Type-Ins?

Post by SpecChum81 » Sat Dec 05, 2015 5:40 pm

Yes I have memories of Type-Ins!

They could be great fun or hair pullingly frustrating!

Will have to check these new versions out! :-)
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Re: Who Loved Type-Ins?

Post by RichL » Sat Dec 05, 2015 6:57 pm

Mine never worked :(

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Re: Who Loved Type-Ins?

Post by luny666 » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:00 pm

I too learnt a lot from typing in listings.
My first ever type-in, was from a magazine borrowed one night from a mate at school. It was a simple lunar lander for the zx81. This was the first time I worked out how to move objects on the screen (let x = x + 1 etc). The ZX81 was also borrowed, from my cousin :).
The next best was from Your Computer, as great version of snake, which showed me how to create UDGs on a VIc, and a very good version of Frogger that had some 6502 to scroll the cars. In fact I liked the Frogger so much I typed it in one day and left the computer on all day (I had no tape recorder back then) so I could play it. Then typed it in again a few days later so I could play it again. Utter madness.

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