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Re: Gamecube - your favourite title and collecting

Post by davyK » Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:18 pm

I have a small JPN GC collection but they are all gems.

1. Mr Driller Drill Land. Wonderful follow up with plenty of new modes and a couple of amusing multi-player modes. (This won't save to the memory card with a Freeloader so watch out).

2. Super Star Soldier. Solid shmup with a main mode and 2 and 5min caravan modes.

3. Nintendo Puzzle Collection. Panel de Pon (aka Tetris Attack) ,Dr. Mario and Yoshi's Cookie with 4 player modes all on one disc.

4. Kururin Squash. Followup to the ingenious GBA game - this adds a 4 player race mode and a nice fight mode that is reminiscent of the fighting game in Monkey Ball.

5. Castle Shikigami 2. Gorgeous modern STG gets a great Gamecube port.

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Re: Gamecube - your favourite title and collecting

Post by dste » Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:25 pm

I need to have a proper look at the JPN/USA releases as I own a couple and have some on my list that I want but not that many.
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Re: Gamecube - your favourite title and collecting

Post by Mayhem » Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:03 am

davyK wrote:1. Mr Driller Drill Land. Wonderful follow up with plenty of new modes and a couple of amusing multi-player modes. (This won't save to the memory card with a Freeloader so watch out).
Yeah, it requires a Japanese formatted memory card, which you can only get with a Japanese GameCube BIOS. Same apples to the Japanese release of first Donkey Konga as well iirc.
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Re: Gamecube - your favourite title and collecting

Post by rossi46 » Wed Dec 30, 2015 3:21 pm

So my 1080p upscaler came!

I plugged my S-Video cable in and got a stripey test screen, but with audio. Bolloks!

I plugged my old AV lead in and it works! The picture is horrible, though.

I plugged the SCART lead back in and it's the best picture of all. Not perfect, but better than the other two.

Has anyone had any joy with these little gadgets? I've messaged the seller, but I suspect I'll be looking for a refund.
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Post by rossi46 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:01 pm

Meh.

Sticking with scart. Sharper picture with albeit jaggy lines, but at least it's honest.

censored your upscaler, Mr. eScum man :(
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Post by ShadowMan » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:06 am

I tried a cheap HD upscaler with my Wii once, it did not work well. It did technically upscale the picture through HDMI but the quality was crap. Since my new TV doesn't do sub HD resolutions that well (they look blurry) I tend to just stick with my CRT. The games just look better on it in my opinion.
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Post by rossi46 » Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:45 pm

Yes. I'm going to try to acquire an old CRT. Freecycle have loads, usually.
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Post by nokgod » Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:52 pm

Decent CRT and official RGB scart cable is probably the best option for a PAL 'cube. :)

Optimal GC picture is an NTSC or region free modded DOL-001 'cube using NTSC 480p optimised games (progressive scan). Input via component cable on an NTSC (60hz) compatible TV. Expensive setup, but oh so worth it.
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Re: Gamecube - your favourite title and collecting

Post by pratty » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:54 am

As someone who likes to future-proof my game systems to some extent, I've been looking at the Eon GCHD device.

It's not at all cheap but probably cheaper than the component cables, and it has got great reviews.

However the reviews are usually for NTSC Cubes and games which will output at 480p (and something about "progressive scan"), and as far as I'm aware the PAL cube doesn't do this, 480i at best I think?

I do have a modded Japanese Gamecube that will play American games, but my collection is almost entirely PAL games.

The best GC cable I own is a third party RGB scart. I also have a PAL Wii with a component cable to play Gamecube games on, but it would be nice to hook up my Cubes directly to a modern telly with HDMI.

Does anybody think there's any significant benefit to the Eon GCHD for a PAL Gamecube. I'm sure it's still an improvement but is it enough to justify the price? I suppose the HMDI connection in itself could be useful, as the Wii doesn't even have that. :|
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Re: Gamecube - your favourite title and collecting

Post by pratty » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:42 pm

EDIT:

Ok so I managed to use the Wii U Gamepad to access the on-screen menu of the GCHD and turned of the "Linedoubler" or something. The image looks much better now. Still some jaggies but I believe that is somewhat to be expected, but I'm much happier with it now. Giving Metroid Prime at test at the moment. :D

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Well I bit the bullet and ordered the Eon GCHD aswell a bunch of NTSC games, and....

...the results aren't as good as I'd hoped.

I expect it may not be the GCHD's fault though. It could be my TV.

I'm finding games look quite blocky and jaggy. My understanding would be that jagged lines would show up more due to them always being present and 'smoothed' over by older trv's lower resolution, so now the jagged lines are more clear to see. However the image seems much more blocky than the videos I'm seeing on youtube.

The colours are probably brighter and the image is probably sharper overall but the blockiness is quite jarring sometimes. In some ways the games look more 'retro' as a result, so that may appeal tro some but I was hoping for a smoother image as well as a sharper one.

I don't know if it's relevant but so far Luigi's Mansion is the only game that has outputted in 480p, the rest I've tried have been 448p. There are settings I can tweak but I don't have a IR remote to sych up to the adapter.

On the plus side the device is supposedly lagless, so this may still be the best method to hook a Gamecube up to a HDMI TV, albeit an expensive way.

Maybe my expectations were too high, but I've spent quite a bit on the adapter and NTSC copies of games I already owned on PAL, and I'm really not sure it was worth it. :|
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Re: Gamecube - your favourite title and collecting

Post by NameWasUsed » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:49 pm

Definetly going to ghost on this thread for a bit. Like the guy abovew me said, I'm always trying to future proof. Beyond that I love pulling the most out of any system.
My current goal is to my GC running nicely on my bigscreen, and so I can record videos.

I had recently watched a Resident Evil trospective on youtube ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTXp2AV ... 6CRNun4HAn_ ) and when he get's towards the GC era, he has some really good insight/commentary on what he used to pull the best out of his GC output wise.
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Re: Gamecube - your favourite title and collecting

Post by pratty » Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:42 pm

NameWasUsed wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:49 pm
Definetly going to ghost on this thread for a bit. Like the guy abovew me said, I'm always trying to future proof. Beyond that I love pulling the most out of any system.
My current goal is to my GC running nicely on my bigscreen, and so I can record videos.

I had recently watched a Resident Evil trospective on youtube ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTXp2AV ... 6CRNun4HAn_ ) and when he get's towards the GC era, he has some really good insight/commentary on what he used to pull the best out of his GC output wise.
Thanks for the link, I watched some of the vids and enjoyed them. He used an upscaler to convert his Gamecube into 1080p. though I think the main issue with this is usually lag.

The GCHD I bought only puts out 480p at the most, and only for certain NTSC games, but it does so straight from the Cube so there's sessentially no lag. But as with all these things it seems you only get what you pay for, and the best results come at a higher price. I suppose the benefit of an upscaler though is you can use a variety on consoles with one where as the Eon GCHD is Gamecube only.

It seems my gaming TV is a bit too old and doesn't handle the GCHD very well in 480p progressive scan, which is annoying, though I expect once i upgrade my tv it should be all good. On the plus side, even now the HDMI output is useful and the device does a decent job of presenting 480i which, on my TV at least, is quite acceptable, so it's not been a total loss.
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