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Re: The Star Wars thread

Post by ALK » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:46 pm

It looks decent enough. Can't say I'm excited to see it as I was TFA, but its looks to have interesting parts in it. Certainly a lot less colourful then I had imaged but ehh, that storm cloud chase scene could be a good aircraft chase scene.
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Re: The Star Wars thread

Post by binaryRooster » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:27 pm

Pointman wrote:
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Holdo's withholding her "plan" from everyone lead to a sub plot that went nowhere, only to highlight social agendas that don't belong in a Star Wars film. This leads Poe to arranging a justified mutiny that when foiled and is told of the actual plan, says that it might just work. He would have had the same reaction if told about the plan initially! I can't believe how bad the writing was for this entire setup.
Totally agree with this. It was a really weak "we need to get from A to B" piece of plot management. Just baffling and ridiculous.

I thought it was okay, a good 7/10 film but the Mary Poppins bit was just plain bad, as was the Fantasia homage right at the end. The "Force dating" scenes were a bit vague as well. Where was the establishing shot? The were told there was only one man who could possibly break the Imperial code, only for them to find another one just sitting there. Also the humour was just crowbarred in left, right and centre without much thought if it worked or not. Nothing drastic but lots of little minus points that just kept adding up (BB8's killing rampage as well!).
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Also the film was a retread of ROTJ and ESB. At one point a character on Crait mentioned that the white stuff on the floor is salt instead of snow, just to tell the audience that this is different to the walker attack on Hoth. Amazing.
And this! I keep reading about how this film dared to be different but really? Lightsabre duels, a trainee Jedi learning about the force in a remote place which includes it's own version of Dagobah's tree, space battles, a remake of Hoth etc. It seemed like it wanted to keep the fans happy by ticking things off a checklist in places.

Big plus points: i liked Kylo Ren's idea of abandoning the Sith/Jedi template (shame it lasted about two minutes) and the fact Rey isn't related to everyone else in the film (quite refreshing).

I had really high hopes for this one and it was fine but just a little unsatisfying. I loved Rogue One but finding it hard to work up any excitement about the Han Solo film.

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Re: The Star Wars thread

Post by ALK » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:27 pm

For those that enjoyed it, Clone Wars is coming back.

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Re: The Star Wars thread

Post by Antiriad2097 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:03 am

Woo hoo! Didn't see that coming. Here's hoping it sticks to the more grown up themes the original came up with from time to time and keeps away from too much childish stuff. Rebels was ok, but something was missing for me, where The Clone Wars had some great characters and storylines.
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Re: The Star Wars thread

Post by oldtimer » Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:59 pm

I enjoyed the new Solo movie, even dragged the wife to see it and she enjoyed it too which makes a change as she don't really get the star wars thing.
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Re: The Star Wars thread

Post by psj3809 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:56 pm

oldtimer wrote:
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I enjoyed the new Solo movie, even dragged the wife to see it and she enjoyed it too which makes a change as she don't really get the star wars thing.
Good to hear. I didnt mind the Last Jedi, some bits i didnt like at all but it was still overall really good. Solo i thought was great, decent storyline, lots of action etc. All good. Already pre ordered the digital/Blu-ray for September.

Hope the new Star wars animated series in October is decent, obviously will be based more for kids but hoping it'll be good. Second that Disney pay channel drops there'll be a fair few bits around/announced i'm sure.

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Re: The Star Wars thread

Post by greenberet79 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:28 pm

Thought the Last Jedi was rubbish. So many ridiculous plot points.
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Re: The Star Wars thread

Post by paranoid marvin » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:57 pm

Jedi was badly written, badly directed...just bad. Here's me think Disney were getting it right with Force Awakens and Rogue One, but this film is an utter mess. Poorly written, poorly directed. Yes the Leia scene is really bad - on a par with squeezing Jabba in to re-mastered ANH. And why have a plot that leads absolutely nowhere? Yes, it happens in real life, but this is meant to be an entertaining movie, and just leaves you utterly baffled as to what the director was thinking.


There are some really great bits, I loved the homage to Boba Fett's ship with the iron and the interaction between Hux and Kylo Ren - I also loved the evil BB8; in fact there's loads of neat references to the original trilogy if you look. There's lots of other stuff that makes very little sense, some awful dialogue worthy of Phantom Menace, and some bizarre decisions to start to build up a character before killing them off.

It reminds me in many ways of Alien 3, and a director's cut (perhaps with a different director) and maybe about half an hour less screentime, there's a competent film waiting to come out.
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Re: The Star Wars thread

Post by paranoid marvin » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:16 pm

paranoid marvin wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:57 pm
Jedi was badly written, badly directed...just bad. Here's me think Disney were getting it right with Force Awakens and Rogue One, but this film is an utter mess. Poorly written, poorly directed. Yes the Leia scene is really bad - on a par with squeezing Jabba in to re-mastered ANH. And why have a plot that leads absolutely nowhere? Yes, it happens in real life, but this is meant to be an entertaining movie, and just leaves you utterly baffled as to what the director was thinking.


There are some really great bits, I loved the homage to Boba Fett's ship with the iron and the interaction between Hux and Kylo Ren - I also loved the evil BB8; in fact there's loads of neat references to the original trilogy if you look. There's lots of other stuff that makes very little sense, some awful dialogue worthy of Phantom Menace, and some bizarre decisions to start to build up a character before killing them off.

It reminds me in many ways of Alien 3, and a director's cut (perhaps with a different director) and maybe about half an hour less screentime, there's a competent film waiting to come out.
I would also say that I still enjoyed it! And if I was a kid I would probably have thought it was even more amazing. Like I said with a bit of tidying up, it would be a lot more coherent and make more sense, but was still tremendously fun, and I really enjoyed the humour; in some respects it was more Spaceballs than Star Wars
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Re: The Star Wars thread

Post by psj3809 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:12 pm

Thought the last Jedi was decent. Yeah some not so great bits but enjoyable overall. I’m a huge fan but I don’t get too upset by the film not being perfect. The outrage by some of the nerds was just embarrassing. Won’t ever please them all

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Re: The Star Wars thread

Post by psj3809 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:00 pm

Anyway got the Solo digital version on Monday, blu-ray to come (just for the collection !). Bought the star wars films on itunes a while back as they had a special dead £49.99 which was great. Want to buy Clone Wars/Rebels but stupidly missed out on the price decrease (£4.99 a season) as its now back to £14.99 a season. Oh well !

Nervous about Star Wars Resistance which is coming out October, seen the trailer and the main guy seems a bit dopey. Not keen on the 'manga' style animation, much prefer Rebels/Clone Wars. Hope i change my mind though once it starts.

Theres yet another new Star Wars book out next week, one of these massive hardcover coffeetable books - its ahem £99 ! (Was £199!). Might cancel my pre order as with less than a week to go theres no other images of it on amazon apart from the cover. Hoping this will be the 'ultimate' book.

Been buying a few second hand Star Wars books on amazon for the making of... style books so i've got a few now for the recent films. Star Wars the Complete Visual dictionary is a nice book as is Ultimate Star Wars. Star Wars Stormtroopers another book i bought as well.

Need to watch the extras on the Solo digital version, and roll on October for Star Wars Resistance

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Re: The Star Wars thread

Post by mrmessy » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:52 pm

Just got drawn into reading some YouTube comments about who likes this Star Wars film, and who hates that Star Wars film. Not a good place to spend any time! ...so I thought I'd dig out this thread.

Anyway it seems a surprising amount of people (with little understanding of grammar and punctuation) HATE the Disney films.

I didn't watch or listen to any reviews of any of the recent Disney films. I just wanted to make my own mind up.
Personally, I was surprised at just how good the Disney films were/are - probably because I was not expecting much. I am also glad George is no longer involved in making them. This is because, to me the prequels actually seem to get worse every time I see them - despite some very good elements here and there. Episode two especially makes me groan inside when my son asks if we can watch it.

I suppose it depends on which films people "grew up with". I was 26 when Episode one came out, and I can clearly recall my feeling of sheer disappoint and bewilderment when the film finished. "Now this is Pod racing!" - Ugh.... [any "comedy" scene with Jar Jar] - W...T...F....? Good light sabre fights though. But the rest....

So basically, I liked Episode 8. I had heard it went in an unexpected direction, but I liked it. I really like Rogue One. I dislike the prequels more and more every time I see them. I don't watch the cartoons or read the books - nor do I want to. Thanks for listening!

My current personal SW film ratings:
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Ep V - 10/10
Ep V - 8/10

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Ep II - 4/10
Ep III - 6/10

Ep VII - 9/10
Rouge One - 9/10
Ep VIII - 8/10
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Re: The Star Wars thread

Post by pratty » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:49 am

I was fine with the disney films until The Last Jedi, it had some good bits but it was too much of a dip in form for me, I just hope they redeem these new episodes with a strong Episode 9. Without spoiling it I find 7 and 8 too much of a rehash only with weaker lead characters, didn't mind this in 7 so much but 8 seemed void of any charisma.

However I have just finished Season 1 of the Clone Wars series and am really enjoying it. It's mostly unnecessary expansion of the universe but it just feels more Star-Warsy than the new movie episodes.
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Re: The Star Wars thread

Post by psj3809 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:13 pm

Re-watched the last jedi recently. Got no problem with Luke being how he is in the film at all, thought that was a good storyline. The beginning was great, but the whole story of how the Empire are just chasing the rebels waiting for them to run out of fuel etc was boring as anything.

The Snoke fight was great and when Luke re-appears and fights Kylo, again another great scene. I didnt mind the casino stuff too much but just find it way too much, while we're constantly being chased you lot leg it down to that planet to find a codebreaker and we'll just keep getting chased !

What am i a bit frustrated with is the 'PC brigade' getting involved. The X wing pilots looked like an advert for Benetton, every race/creed etc just to please everyone it seems. Tons of pressure on JJ for Episode 9, really hope he hits the mark as i was gutted to see Solo perform so badly at the box office. Thought that was a nice little film, no Oscar winner or that but not bad at all. Bad bad bad though to release it when they did, should have waited till December.

BUT looking forward to the Mandolorian series and also the other upcoming ones you hear rumours about

I do love star wars but i wasnt too upset by the Last Jedi, some of the backlash that got from some fans was soooo OTT.

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Re: The Star Wars thread

Post by pratty » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:26 pm

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Re-watched the last jedi recently. Got no problem with Luke being how he is in the film at all, thought that was a good storyline. The beginning was great, but the whole story of how the Empire are just chasing the rebels waiting for them to run out of fuel etc was boring as anything.

The Snoke fight was great and when Luke re-appears and fights Kylo, again another great scene. I didnt mind the casino stuff too much but just find it way too much, while we're constantly being chased you lot leg it down to that planet to find a codebreaker and we'll just keep getting chased !

What am i a bit frustrated with is the 'PC brigade' getting involved. The X wing pilots looked like an advert for Benetton, every race/creed etc just to please everyone it seems. Tons of pressure on JJ for Episode 9, really hope he hits the mark as i was gutted to see Solo perform so badly at the box office. Thought that was a nice little film, no Oscar winner or that but not bad at all. Bad bad bad though to release it when they did, should have waited till December.

BUT looking forward to the Mandolorian series and also the other upcoming ones you hear rumours about

I do love star wars but i wasnt too upset by the Last Jedi, some of the backlash that got from some fans was soooo OTT.
The plot of the Last Jedi just didn't feel high stakes enough, the premise actually sounds like a Clone Wars episode rather than an epic live action blockbuster event. And the codebreaker wild goose chase just felt like a waste of time.

I didn't want to say it but the PC influence hasn't helped the recent movies at all. I've no problem with female and ethnic minority lead characters being involved (though I've no doubt it's a forced 'diversity' and 'representation' virtue signalling thing), it's that it felt like they thought their superficial identities would be enough to carry the film, instead of actual captivating characters. To be fair Finn is passable and by far the best of the bunch, Rei and Poe are just too bland though and Kylo is too much of a moody emo teenager to be badass, they're just poor versions of the characters that preceeded them.

Solo was good (eye-rolling droid-feminist side plot aside), but I also think it didn't help Solo that they just killed him off in the previous movie, puts a bit of a downer on the origin story and makes it harder to emotionally invest in his well being.
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