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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:19 am
by nwosteve
the lowestoft indy show on 19/2 was for big time wrestling...it was ok nothing special...zebra kid was on the card (love heckling him with his local history) and james mason was good (seen him several times, got talent)

there is another charity show on april 17th (i think) in lowestoft ...think it is being run by the WAW

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:44 pm
by mohicankid
bigtime wrestling is run as a sister company to all star wrestling and is run by brian dixons daughter letitia allmark, they usualy have really good shows but the problem at the mo' is all the yanks are in europe! so they have to rely on local tallent!

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:27 am
by nwosteve
mohicankid wrote:bigtime wrestling is run as a sister company to all star wrestling and is run by brian dixons daughter letitia allmark, they usualy have really good shows but the problem at the mo' is all the yanks are in europe! so they have to rely on local tallent!
they did that kinda sums the night up really...they had goliath from gladiatiors there but it wasn't advertised,,,thought a tv name would put bums on seats...same happened last yeat on a WAW show in yarmouth the star was oblivion from gladiators (big TNA star now...yeah right!) but noone knew he was gonna be there!!!

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:19 am
by mohicankid
grr goliath.....we hates him...evil, nasty,stead headses...



UHUM....SORRY ABOUT THAT!
yes thats our beloved barry grithiths he has been on the wrestling scene for a couple of years now and apart from his size, has nothing special!
he will be on most asw shows and almost every show in wales this summer!
until the end of the year as he fly's over to join the ranks of OVW in november!

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:31 am
by nwosteve
yes didn't think much of him his opponent controlled the match
another OVW "superstar" in the making? strewth things bust really be bad over there

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:16 pm
by bonerlaw
mohicankid, I have even more respect for what you do now!

Been watching Hulk Hogans: Celebrity Championship Wrestling, and it just highlights how much effort and training must be put in for a match to look good!

Also, how much you have to trust your opponent, and the risk of injury! Saw Dennis Rodman land a poor flying closeline from the 2nd turnbuckle and one of the Nasty Boys (think its Nobbs), and both were injured down to poor execution!

Its bloody good viewing, I would recommend it to any wrestling fan!

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:49 pm
by ToxieDogg
bonerlaw wrote:mohicankid, I have even more respect for what you do now!

Been watching Hulk Hogans: Celebrity Championship Wrestling, and it just highlights how much effort and training must be put in for a match to look good!

Also, how much you have to trust your opponent, and the risk of injury! Saw Dennis Rodman land a poor flying closeline from the 2nd turnbuckle and one of the Nasty Boys (think its Nobbs), and both were injured down to poor execution!

Its bloody good viewing, I would recommend it to any wrestling fan!
Yeah, that's a good one to watch. Most of us wrestling fans know only too well the amount of hard work and effort that goes into the matches, which is why it's so damn frustrating when somebody comes along and sneers at us with disdain and says 'It's all fake, you know!'.

In the same way, a lot of hard work and effort goes into cheographing fight scenes and stunts for action films....you don't hear anybody moaning that the actors in films aren't really trying to hurt each other, do you? So why do they get so annoyed by pro wrestling being staged? It's entertainment, it should just be enjoyed for what it is, but the people involved also deserve the utmost respect for the sheer hard work that it takes to present a quality show to the fans. :)

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:56 pm
by Elgin_McQueen
Just have to watch the Sid Vicious leg break to see just how easily you can get injured in the ring doing something basic, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ_RR9WjUlI

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:15 pm
by bonerlaw
Elgin_McQueen wrote:Just have to watch the Sid Vicious leg break to see just how easily you can get injured in the ring doing something basic, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ_RR9WjUlI

owyowyowyowyowy! Took it like a man though, the bloke didnt even flinch! :shock:

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:23 pm
by felgekarp
bonerlaw wrote:
Elgin_McQueen wrote:Just have to watch the Sid Vicious leg break to see just how easily you can get injured in the ring doing something basic, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ_RR9WjUlI

owyowyowyowyowy! Took it like a man though, the bloke didnt even flinch! :shock:
Didn't he still have to wait in the ring for someone to come out and attack him before he got pinned and they ended the match?

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:09 pm
by Elgin_McQueen
felgekarp wrote:
bonerlaw wrote:
Elgin_McQueen wrote:Just have to watch the Sid Vicious leg break to see just how easily you can get injured in the ring doing something basic, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ_RR9WjUlI

owyowyowyowyowy! Took it like a man though, the bloke didnt even flinch! :shock:
Didn't he still have to wait in the ring for someone to come out and attack him before he got pinned and they ended the match?
Wouldn't be surprised. The Ultimate Warrior wouldn't have though. :wink:

Re: wrestling

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:36 pm
by mohicankid
ToxieDogg wrote:
bonerlaw wrote:mohicankid, I have even more respect for what you do now!

Been watching Hulk Hogans: Celebrity Championship Wrestling, and it just highlights how much effort and training must be put in for a match to look good!
Also, how much you have to trust your opponent, and the risk of injury! Saw Dennis Rodman land a poor flying closeline from the 2nd turnbuckle and one of the Nasty Boys (think its Nobbs), and both were injured down to poor execution!
Its bloody good viewing, I would recommend it to any wrestling fan!
Yeah, that's a good one to watch. Most of us wrestling fans know only too well the amount of hard work and effort that goes into the matches, which is why it's so damn frustrating when somebody comes along and sneers at us with disdain and says 'It's all fake, you know!'.
In the same way, a lot of hard work and effort goes into cheographing fight scenes and stunts for action films....you don't hear anybody moaning that the actors in films aren't really trying to hurt each other, do you? So why do they get so annoyed by pro wrestling being staged? It's entertainment, it should just be enjoyed for what it is, but the people involved also deserve the utmost respect for the sheer hard work that it takes to present a quality show to the fans. :)


fixed,staged,choriographed,fake...these are all words "thrown" about when disscussing wrestling, the truth is, its not "fixed" as that would be saying that it was supposed to be a legitimate competition,so you are knocking down the argument that wrestling is "fake", its not. 99.9% of pro wrestling holds/throws are based on legitimate holds/throws and they all hurt, some a little, some a lot..if this were not so, then why would so many pro wrestlers suffer from pain killer addictions? some would say that injuries only happen when wrestling goes wrong, becouse its all choriographed or staged(meaning rehearsed)...but its not...wrestlers train for years untill certain things become second nature, the way your opponant takes an arm/leg/head, the way they stand/walk/lay/crawl, every litle thing you see a wrestler do in...and out of the ring is a form of comunication, with the opponent,the ref', the fans and the people in the back,the subtlest of actions speak a thousend words.
contrary to popular belief, wrestlers have verry little communication before a match, most don't turn up until 20 mins before the opening bell! if you watch my tag match at the begining of this thread you will see a match that was done completly on the fly....i was busy and turned up litteraly as my entrance music came on....didn't know i was in a tag match...hadn't even met the person i started out with untill i got to the ring..thats where the hardest part of wrestling comes in...trust!
i go into every match and put my body, even my life into the hands of a complete stranger and trust that he knows what he is doing..and respect that he is doing the same with me..sometimes people lie their way in and people get hurt...thats the risk we take!
we (on the inside) call wrestling a "WORK" becouse thats what we do, we take legitmate holds and work them, so that whilst making them look as legit as possible, we are not maming each other,
we "work the crowd" we make them cheer or boo, shout insults or laugh, and occasionaly we make even the most unbelieving of punters wince and wonder...."was he meant to do that?"
its all psycholodgy...the lights, the music, the bright costumes, the colours worn by wrestlers (hero's bright, villains dark) the actions in the ring, all these things used correctly allow us to treat the whole crowd, be it 50 or 5000 people, like our own personal puppets!
so to sum it up
wrestling is neither fixed,staged,choriographed,or fake....it is a living, breathing,somtimes bleeding WORK...of art
:mrgreen:


and i'm more than a little drunk!

Re: wrestling

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:30 pm
by Elgin_McQueen
Very nicely put!

Re: wrestling

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:40 pm
by mohicankid
:))
you'll be suprised by what i'm capable of after downing a quater bottle of vodka!
:lol:

Re: wrestling

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:17 pm
by ToxieDogg
mohicankid wrote:wrestling is neither fixed,staged,choriographed,or fake....it is a living, breathing,somtimes bleeding WORK...of art
:mrgreen:
I know I mentioned 'cherographing' in my last post but I also understand fully what you mean and couldn't agree more. :)

I consider myself to be a 'smark' (smart mark) but even I am sometimes left wondering if what I've seen was actually part of the 'entertainment' or not. But that's part of the draw of pro wrestling, and what makes it one of the greatest forms of showmanship ever devised. I once heard Vince McMahon describe it as 'athletic theatre'....that's another term I think fits pro wrestling quite well :)

It's the whole trust issue that I find to be one of the most fascinating aspects of it all....I think it's truly amazing the way that a couple of people can go out live and work a great match just by communicating with each other and making it up as they go along until the inevitable finishing manoevres....and of course, if this trust is broken in any way, then the hazards can be very real indeed....you only have to take a look at the end of the match where Owen Hart broke Stone Cold Steve Austin's neck to see that. :o