Prejudice probably.TMR wrote:i assumed that since this was the Retro Gamer message board, we all fall within that range of fandom to at least some degree.Crunchy wrote:This is obviously hard for you to stomach, but the simple fact is that platformers and shooters on the C64 and Spectrum (to name just two machines) have no relevance at all outside of fandom.
The C64 got so many published shoot 'em ups because the market dictated to the publishers what they wanted and the publishers, never ones to pass up the chance of making a few quid, listened and took on what people asked for. Fast forward twenty years and here are people at the Retro Gamer message board, coming to remember games like Jet Set Willy on the Spectrum or Uridium on the C64.
The question i'm trying to get my head around is, if people are here because those games were playable without needing superior machines or huge marketing budgets, if they're here because they're interested in games developed in back rooms by lone programmers... if it's just a matter of rose tinting then that's fine and good, but if any of these people are dipping into the archives and playing games they hadn't previously tried, why is there a distinction between those games and new ones developed in the same way?
Hobbyists are seen as amateurs by most people and thus their products are seen as the same. It puts the new games in the same category that type in listings were back in the day. You're involved in an amateur scene however much professional gloss you try to put on it. The term "homebrew" has a negative connotation for the masses.
The funny thing is, if Matthew Smith or Jeff Minter announced they were making new games for the Speccy or C64 I think you'd find a lot more interest being given to those projects.
It's also worth noting that most retro gamers who are trying out old stuff they've never played before are actually into the hobby for that very reason ... to play the stuff they missed first time around or finally get to play the games they wanted to play on platforms they had no access to back then. It's all part of the nostalgia trip rather than a genuine urge to re-enjoy the old consoles.