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my original post about carragher was that wes brown gets into the england starting lineup before carragher, now call me biased if you like but there's no way wes brown is a better defender than jamie carragher, either at RB or CB, but as much as it pains me to say it i'd rather see neville at RB than carragher, thats if i had any actual interest in the england team 

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Well , even if I didn't have Carragher in my starting XI , I'd certainly have him on the bench . Plus England need as many positive players in the camp as the8 can get right nowSexyWayne wrote:my original post about carragher was that wes brown gets into the england starting lineup before carragher, now call me biased if you like but there's no way wes brown is a better defender than jamie carragher, either at RB or CB, but as much as it pains me to say it i'd rather see neville at RB than carragher, thats if i had any actual interest in the england team
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Man U may still be behind, but we'll still win it. It wasn't a penalty, Chelsea are a bunch of cheats and I hate them. At least the ref has been dropped for doing a Graham Poll!Dudley wrote:My apologies, that was clearly not a penalty. You were screwed. In fact in general was that ref watching the same match we were?
At least, Man Utd is still behind eh?
And I'd be a lot happier if certain parties in blue shirts could stop being absolute twats whenever anything is remotely debatable, especially when we're clearly, against all possible odds, getting massively the balance of the decisions at Anfield.
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I don't think that Chelsea are any different to the other Premiership clubs in the way they try to get decisions from the ref
The penalty on Sunday was given by the ref in error , imho the Chelsea player wasn't looking to con him - which makes the ref's decision to award it even worse
The penalty on Sunday was given by the ref in error , imho the Chelsea player wasn't looking to con him - which makes the ref's decision to award it even worse
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Except he didn't.sonic91 wrote:Man U may still be behind, but we'll still win it. It wasn't a penalty, Chelsea are a bunch of cheats and I hate them. At least the ref has been dropped for doing a Graham Poll!Dudley wrote:My apologies, that was clearly not a penalty. You were screwed. In fact in general was that ref watching the same match we were?
At least, Man Utd is still behind eh?
And I'd be a lot happier if certain parties in blue shirts could stop being absolute twats whenever anything is remotely debatable, especially when we're clearly, against all possible odds, getting massively the balance of the decisions at Anfield.
But thanks for f-ing up a perfectly civil commiseration thread with hate filled bollocks.
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imo chelsea's pestering of the referee is just a extension of jose's tactics, it's not as if it's only chelsea that do it, the mancs are just as likely to whinge and moan if a decision goes against them, in fact liverpool are the only team to never crowd a referee
yeah right, some teams do it more subtle than others ie stevie's freekick at villa, he looked to see where the ref was before the "foul" and glared at the ref to give the kick, all teams do it, and sometimes it works, it's all part of the game we know and love, if ref's had any bo**ocks they'd stop it on their own

I think that only the captain should be allowed to approch the Ref and that refs should starting showing stright reds to players who crowd round shouting their mouths off.
I also think that the person who was failed should be the one who takes the resulting free kick when possible, this would stop some of the cheating that goes on in the last 5mins of a draw just to get your free kick taker in with a chance of scoring.
I also think that the person who was failed should be the one who takes the resulting free kick when possible, this would stop some of the cheating that goes on in the last 5mins of a draw just to get your free kick taker in with a chance of scoring.
This is good.Opa-Opa wrote:I think that only the captain should be allowed to approch the Ref and that refs should starting showing stright reds to players who crowd round shouting their mouths off.
This isn't.I also think that the person who was failed should be the one who takes the resulting free kick when possible, this would stop some of the cheating that goes on in the last 5mins of a draw just to get your free kick taker in with a chance of scoring.
It has one obvious flaw. There are plenty of good players who aren't that great at spot kicks. In your plan they would get fouled all the time because you can be certain the free kick is probably not going to amount to anything.
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There shouldn't be any need - the ref is meant to add 30 seconds on for every substitutionSirClive wrote:I would like to see substitutions banned after 85 minutes. Bringing on a sub with 1 minute left on the clock is cheating to me (and all clubs do it).
But unfortunately we all know added-on time after 45/90 mins is a load of bollocks and.usually has no reflection on what's happened in the match
How often have you been 1 goal up away from home and seen a minimum of 4 or 5 minutes added on time , to give the home team a chance to score?
Look at most games - unless there's a serious injury I can almost guarantee that this is how added time will go
after 45 minutes , 1 minute added
after 90 minutes , usually 4 minutes , occsionally 5 mins added
I remember going back only a few years , we had no idea how much added time there was going to be. In fact , we didn't even know when 90 mins was up !
In my opinion , this is one thing that football can take from rugby - stop the clock each time there's a break in play , and finish the game on 45 and 90 minutes. It's worked successfully in American sports , and rugby
It wouldn't detract from the game or mean slowing the game down. It would just mean that games where played for the lenghths they're meant to be played for
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Problem there is that the ball is only in play for about 60 mins a game, so you would be adding about another 30 mins to every match. But in principle I agree.paranoid marvin wrote:In my opinion , this is one thing that football can take from rugby - stop the clock each time there's a break in play , and finish the game on 45 and 90 minutes. It's worked successfully in American sports , and rugby
It wouldn't detract from the game or mean slowing the game down. It would just mean that games where played for the lenghths they're meant to be played for
Then the person/persons who keep fouling that one player will get sent off for persitant fouling.. and lets face it, if the player is fouled in the final third chances are they are a pretty good spot kicker, if they are in their own half they could always play it back/across to gain an advantage.. It's still a free kick.Dudley wrote:
It has one obvious flaw. There are plenty of good players who aren't that great at spot kicks. In your plan they would get fouled all the time because you can be certain the free kick is probably not going to amount to anything.
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