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Re: Project Hubbard (Rob Hubbard Kickstarter) is live!

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:59 pm
by Spiff
Antiriad2097 wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:45 am
But yes, back to the Kickstarter. Much as I love Rob's work, I'm not really that interested in a bunch of covers by other people in this case.
The Hubbard book can be pledged for by itself, if that appeals. A bit pricey, tho.

Re: Project Hubbard (Rob Hubbard Kickstarter) is live!

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:31 pm
by Crusty Starfish
NickThorpe wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:59 am
Guys, knock off this ridiculous argument. Kieren's video contained an error based on a source he used, someone else had a conversation with Rob Hubbard and corrected the error. There's no lie or misrepresentation as far as I can see, just some poorly worded posts.
What, he thought it might be him but then found that it actually wasn't. That's like asking Stephen King if he wrote The Dark and suddenly remembering it wasn't him but James Herbert. :?
To be fair, I sometimes struggle to remember what I was doing at work weeks ago, let alone decades ago. Sometimes these things happen - there are situations where I've done an interview but not written the resulting feature, or vice-versa. It's not hard to believe that Rob, who did do Atari ST work and did work on Battleships for another platform, might misremember the details decades down the line.
I wasn't actually having an argument. I was just interested in if Laird had actually interviewed my fave C64 musician... and was confused that he wouldn't remember doing the ST version of a tune.

Re: Project Hubbard (Rob Hubbard Kickstarter) is live!

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:32 pm
by Antiriad2097
Spiff wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:59 pm
Antiriad2097 wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:45 am
But yes, back to the Kickstarter. Much as I love Rob's work, I'm not really that interested in a bunch of covers by other people in this case.
The Hubbard book can be pledged for by itself, if that appeals. A bit pricey, tho.
A bit pricey? Ridiculously pricey imo. It's only 300 pages. £39 for that? I'll pass, it's almost a pound a page. Is it A1 size or something? Worse is the PDF. £21. For a PDF. Most of these things sell the physical book for near that price.

I like Hubbard, he was hugely influential and I regularly listen to his music, but I think I'll stick with HVSC. I know nothing of music anyway, so I'm not sure how interesting I'd find its production.

Re: Project Hubbard (Rob Hubbard Kickstarter) is live!

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:59 pm
by kaiserpc
£1 a page, lol, your maths is a bit off Antiriad that would make it £300 ... it works out at 13p a page (if it was 300 pages), but as the zzap64! bit is now going to be included as well ... so an extra 16 pages (with all the old Zzap64! crew).

Yep, they're not the cheapest, but some of the funding will also go towards the 8-bit concert that's planned.

I'm backing it anyways ... so much nostalgia, and Rob was a genius! Loved his SIDs, music of my generation. I'm going for the deluxe CD and the book. Just over 2 days to go .. .wonder how many more stretch goals they can get

Re: Project Hubbard (Rob Hubbard Kickstarter) is live!

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:51 pm
by Antiriad2097
:oops:

Re: Project Hubbard (Rob Hubbard Kickstarter) is live!

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:09 pm
by Mayhem
And this is all new fresh material, so you know, the writers are being paid to write the content, it isn't just printing and creations costs here.

Re: Project Hubbard (Rob Hubbard Kickstarter) is live!

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:26 pm
by PaulEMoz
The book is going to be incredibly comprehensive.

Into the last 24 hours now. To answer the question about Rob's original SIDs, they're not part of the Kickstarter... that is all new, original content. But there are plans to offer these in a package on C64audio.com at a later date, which will be tied to this as part of the efforts to finance the concert with the LSO.

Re: Project Hubbard (Rob Hubbard Kickstarter) is live!

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:17 pm
by Tom_Baker
Hmppff...

Abbot you say..

Nothing related to De la Mennais Brothers, i should hope....?

Re: Project Hubbard (Rob Hubbard Kickstarter) is live!

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:21 pm
by PaulEMoz
No, that much I can guarantee.

Re: Project Hubbard (Rob Hubbard Kickstarter) is live!

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:25 pm
by merman
£75,000 reached, so Matt Gray is doing new remixes of Rob's music.

That last stretch goal is important. An 8-bit Symphony concert, with the famous London Symphony Orchestra PLAYING computer music. I'd love it to happen.

Re: Project Hubbard (Rob Hubbard Kickstarter) is live!

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:45 pm
by Crusty Starfish
merman wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:25 pm
£75,000 reached, so Matt Gray is doing new remixes of Rob's music.

That last stretch goal is important. An 8-bit Symphony concert, with the famous London Symphony Orchestra PLAYING computer music. I'd love it to happen.
So would I.... and with little time left, I still am finding it hard to justify the costs :( Could be the first C64 project like this that I miss out on.

Re: Project Hubbard (Rob Hubbard Kickstarter) is live!

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:49 pm
by PaulEMoz
Well, if you don't back it now, there's always the option to use c64audio.com, which is taking "pre-orders" and will be for some time after the Kickstarter finishes. These count as pledges towards the goals.

Re: Project Hubbard (Rob Hubbard Kickstarter) is live!

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:31 am
by NickThorpe
Crusty Starfish wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:31 pm
NickThorpe wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:59 am
What, he thought it might be him but then found that it actually wasn't. That's like asking Stephen King if he wrote The Dark and suddenly remembering it wasn't him but James Herbert. :?
To be fair, I sometimes struggle to remember what I was doing at work weeks ago, let alone decades ago. Sometimes these things happen - there are situations where I've done an interview but not written the resulting feature, or vice-versa. It's not hard to believe that Rob, who did do Atari ST work and did work on Battleships for another platform, might misremember the details decades down the line.
I wasn't actually having an argument. I was just interested in if Laird had actually interviewed my fave C64 musician... and was confused that he wouldn't remember doing the ST version of a tune.
I was addressing the other parties about the argument. I'd hoped separating the two points with your quote would keep them distinct, but it clearly didn't read that way. Sorry for any confusion.