Is the moderating team on RG fair and effective?

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Is the moderating team on RG fair and effective

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Is the moderating team on RG fair and effective?

Post by koopa42 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:03 am

So, after the polls have been (mostly I assume) completed, do we think the moderating team is fair and/or effective. I've read them through and taken on board a lot of what people have posted, including the moderators who have (for the most part) answered clearly and without bias.

My conclusion is this:

The moderating team is small, can't really check every post so have to rely on the report button

There are cliques and followers who either discuss via PMs, secret forums (LOL I haven't heard of them for a LONG time) how they can bully members and their posts. Not only is there the possibility of direct discussion? I think there are certain patterns where people will just report various members on the back of either not liking them or following their 'group' of members who feel the same way

The moderating team do not stick to any sort of code of conduct, I appreciate it's a hard job and they are few in number but there is clear difference in how they treat members and this is usually brushed under the carpet with 'there are only so many of us' or 'it's all about the report button' leaving the real power (or abuse of) in the hands of any groups that should wish to use it.

Certain members do fear posting about things, I was shocked to hear that members had had to 'beg for their lives' (not a direct quote) after posting some things that to anyone else seemed harmless. I certainly have had to reel myself in over the years of posting on here and I like to think (overall anyway) I've managed it a fair bit but I now see that (even if I really don't care about) I will be getting banned for things that go unpunished for others.

There have been instances of the moderators evading their own swear filter (something I have been warned for many many times as other members have gone on unimpeded) and even members getting banned for what was regarded 'snide remarks' with no warning except the usual editing of a post and the inclusion of 'snide remarks' about the actual ban, again this all feeds into (what I perceive is) a terrible double standard in almost all things on this forum.

Do we think the forum should continue as is? Or should there be an actual concerted effort to try and stop a lot of these problems? Again, I know that some people posting in the threads seem to think this is a conspiracy? from me? I don't know why but it's all serious enough discussion IMO.

There are probably other things but I have things to do rather than chat on here, I may add them as I think about them but I'm pretty sure I've covered what I wanted to.

Would the forum be better without the report abusers? or would it be better without the reported? Currently it runs with both smashing headlong into each other and because of the way the system runs? the reporters have all the power not the moderators. I don't know the answer, and am happy to hear what you all think.

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Should I add an option for meh, they do a good job but aren't always effective?

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Re: Is the moderating team on RG fair and effective?

Post by psj3809 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:07 am

This is getting boring

You know what happened. You purposely posted previously to wind Kieren up. You two dont obviously get on. It backfired and you were banned for 5 days. You then moaned about everything over on your forum and now after the ban you're back and just being difficult/clever and its looking a bit embarassing.

We're all adults here, most of the modding i do is to get rid of kit_ch_en spammers or 1 post 'look at my website/app i'm off now forever bye'. But theres a usual few who like to just argue non stop.

Creating poll after poll here is doing nothing but just look a bit embarassing.

The vast vast majority of people here cause no issues and rarely argue. Its only a select few who are often the cause of all the issues

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Re: Is the moderating team on RG fair and effective?

Post by koopa42 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:10 am

Is that relevant to my thread? I have been banned and accepted that ban, I haven't mentioned my reason for being banned and am only discussing the forum. Again, if I have broken any rules, point them out.

Embarassing? For who? certainly not me.

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I think it's embarrassing for the forum, it shows people are thinking about it (2 very busy threads ..... well one and a half AND one was derailed to add more embarrassment). Fear not, this will be my last poll about these particular problems, I think the polls have shown what I wanted them to and this one is just a sort of conclusion post. Maybe I should have posted the actual poll and just the post? I personally think it needed the poll, especially as numbers are a big thing on this forum for a lot of people proving/disproving this that and the other. That, and links to any and all information that suits their needs.

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Re: Is the moderating team on RG fair and effective?

Post by psj3809 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:21 am

Well done you've proved your point. Double standards as Darren bypassed the swear filter (bad darren) and other people going off topic on posts. Bad people and yes very very embarassing.

Now lets get back to talking about Metal Slug

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Re: Is the moderating team on RG fair and effective?

Post by c0nfu53d » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:25 am

For the most part the mods do a fantastic job.

I do think the mods are abit harsh on noobs. My first post was deleted without any contact and no explanation was given even when I asked why. Its also tiresome having to google for links after mods remove them just because the poster is new - even though they are relevant and interesting.

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Re: Is the moderating team on RG fair and effective?

Post by psj3809 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:33 am

c0nfu53d wrote:For the most part the mods do a fantastic job.

I do think the mods are abit harsh on noobs. My first post was deleted without any contact and no explanation was given even when I asked why. Its also tiresome having to google for links after mods remove them just because the poster is new - even though they are relevant and interesting.
But a fair few are really spammers. They post once and never post again or contribute to the forum. Its often 'look at my game' or 'look at my youtube channel' and they never post again. If we allowed those we'll be flooded by 1 post 'look at my app' or 1 post 'heres my kickstarter link'.

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Re: Is the moderating team on RG fair and effective?

Post by c0nfu53d » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:51 am

A interesting, relevant link isn't spam.

Spam is: irrelevant or unsolicited messages sent over the Internet, typically to large numbers of users, for the purposes of advertising, phishing, spreading malware, etc.

If the poster only posts once who cares? It give the rest of the forum a chance to discuss the topic raised.

If the poster is selling something then thats different.

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Re: Is the moderating team on RG fair and effective?

Post by koopa42 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:52 am

Spam is scum. That's why RP is currently locked to new sign ups. It's a chore as well.

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Re: Is the moderating team on RG fair and effective?

Post by psj3809 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:06 am

c0nfu53d wrote:A interesting, relevant link isn't spam.

Spam is: irrelevant or unsolicited messages sent over the Internet, typically to large numbers of users, for the purposes of advertising, phishing, spreading malware, etc.

If the poster only posts once who cares? It give the rest of the forum a chance to discuss the topic raised.

If the poster is selling something then thats different.
The forum will be flooded by people posting once about their app, it'll be flooded by 'look at my youtube video' and it'll be flooded by please give money to my kickstarter.The forums meant to be a community of people, it'll turn to crap if its full of 1 post spammers who are spamming their video/kickstarter/game and not contributing to the forum. Most forums are the same. If they post once it'll be full of 'post once' people and be a complete mess.

I mean the AUP says...

"5. No commercial use
Our forums are for topic discussion only and its use for commercial, press releases, adverts, or any other solicited or unsolicited commercial communication posting is strictly forbidden. "

So someone just turning up with their first post with 'please buy my app bye bye' to me would be spam plus commercial purposes as they're trying to sell a game to you. Yeah theres spam from viagra spammers and the like, also joining a forum simply to spam one product

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Re: Is the moderating team on RG fair and effective?

Post by koopa42 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:05 am

Thank you Darran and Retrogamerforum in general. Point proven without any doubt.

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Oh and I think I've been threatened off to my own forum? I think it was a threat, the miscommunication and unprofessionalism on some forums is just top hard to read.

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Re: Is the moderating team on RG fair and effective?

Post by clarance » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:21 am

The reason that these threads occur - yes they are rather silly, petty and childish - is precisely because it's so difficult to post in the 'proper' retro threads without getting pushed around, bullied and unfairly treated (obviously proportionally and relatively within the thread).

So point made, threads locked, stop having an opinion...
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Re: Is the moderating team on RG fair and effective?

Post by psj3809 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:28 am

clarance wrote:The reason that these threads occur - yes they are rather silly, petty and childish - is precisely because it's so difficult to post in the 'proper' retro threads without getting pushed around, bullied and unfairly treated (obviously proportionally and relatively within the thread).

So point made, threads locked, stop having an opinion...
If you're in a thread and that happens then report it. That way all the mods see the reported message as does Darren. We cant check every single thread, i never thought the piracy one would turn into what it did. Suddenly theres page and page of crap, dont think there was one reported message from it. If it was reported someone could look into it straight away instead of having to wade through pages of crap, deleting posts etc etc.

If you get pushed around, bullied and unfairly treated report it

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Re: Is the moderating team on RG fair and effective?

Post by Darran@Retro Gamer » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:28 am

Calm down Koops you weren't threatened. It's an observation.
Make any more whiny threads about how done by you are and you can have a month ban.

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