747 crashes in Afghan

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747 crashes in Afghan

Post by HalcyonDaze00 » Wed May 01, 2013 2:29 pm

Don't watch if you don't like flying, yikes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sUWC2jfjqI

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Re: 747 crashes in Afghan

Post by jdanddiet » Wed May 01, 2013 2:55 pm

yeah I saw that earlier. Truly frightening.
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Re: 747 crashes in Afghan

Post by James A » Wed May 01, 2013 5:28 pm

Looks fake when you first see it but yeah that's not a pleasant watch. Looks like total power failure on the plane.
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Re: 747 crashes in Afghan

Post by HalcyonDaze00 » Wed May 01, 2013 6:33 pm

latest info seems to be that it was cargo shifting that caused the crash, lots of heavy military kit not secured properly which pushed the nose up and resulted in stall/loss of power.

shocking stuff, thankfully only 7 people on board, could have been a much higher death toll.

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Post by djcarlos » Thu May 02, 2013 3:20 am

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Re: 747 crashes in Afghan

Post by greenberet79 » Thu May 02, 2013 4:04 am

Jeez, that's terrifying.

I was once on a flight that flew into a storm and I genuinely thought I was going to die - the lights off, the cabin being lit up by flashes of lightening. The only time in my life I've thoght "well, this is it."
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Re: 747 crashes in Afghan

Post by merman » Thu May 02, 2013 5:47 am

First time I ever flew, the plane pulled away from the terminal, taxied to the runway... And then we went back to the terminal. Engine problems, everyone had to get off and then back on after an hour's delay. Didn't help the nerves!
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Re: 747 crashes in Afghan

Post by piginapoke » Fri May 03, 2013 1:19 am

if that was a high angle of attack on take off and shifting load then it was never going to fly. terrifying how quick it flips over on one wing as all energy is lost. Incredible to see a massive aircraft like that falling like a leaf. horrific. :(
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Re: 747 crashes in Afghan

Post by r0jaws » Fri May 03, 2013 3:03 am

There is a very good chance that this was caused by an improperly secured load. The balance and positioning inside is critical to flight, any movement will result in this sort of accident especially at take of and landing when there is an enormous amount of stress on the airframe and surfaces.
However, it can only happen in a Cargo aircraft. Inside a passenger aircraft the load, passengers and luggage, are evenly distributed and fixed. The luggage underneath you has a much smaller area in which to move and even if it disengages, is not sufficient in weight to produce these sort of results.
To put it in perspective, globally their are 1000s of aircraft movements every hour, every day 365 days a year. How often do you hear of an event like this?
There were probably 7 people killed yesterday morning on the roads in the UK alone, more in the afternoon, and some more this morning.
If an aircraft returns with engine problems, it is usually a minor fix, the equivalent of having a blown headlamp. The pilot must still have it attended to though. Jet engines are incredibly simple and reliable, very few moving parts and very robust, so if the pilot tells you they are returning because of engine problems, it's unnerving, but usually fairly routine.

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Re: 747 crashes in Afghan

Post by SoupDragon » Fri May 03, 2013 4:45 am

Holy Carp :shock:
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Re: 747 crashes in Afghan

Post by James A » Fri May 03, 2013 11:25 am

Don't they have to do a specific take off and landing procedure in hot zones like Iraq and Afghanistan to avoid ground attack?
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Re: 747 crashes in Afghan

Post by r0jaws » Fri May 03, 2013 6:42 pm

Depends. But that probably wasn't what happened here.

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