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Adult sites blockage

Post by lanky316 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:43 pm

Caught this article online courtesy of the Australian Independent.
THE UK Government is to combat the early sexualization of children by blocking internet pornography unless parents request it, it was revealed today.

The move is intended to ensure that children are not exposed to sex as a routine by-product of the internet. It follows warnings about the hidden damage being done to children by sex sites.

The biggest broadband providers, including BT, Virgin Media and TalkTalk, are being called to a meeting next month by Ed Vaizey, the communications minister, and will be asked to change how pornography gets into homes.

Instead of using parental controls to stop access to pornography - so-called "opting out" - the tap will be turned off at source. Adults will then have to "opt in."

The new initiative is in advance of the imminent convergence of the internet and television on one large screen in the living room.

It follows the success of an operation by most British internet service providers (ISPs) to prevent people inadvertently viewing child porn websites. Ministers want companies to use similar technology to shut out adult pornography from children. Pornography sites will be blocked at source unless people specifically ask to view them.

TalkTalk, which includes Tiscali and the British version of Aol.com, is already introducing a new free service early next year called "bright feed," which allows people to control the internet so that all devices are automatically covered without the need to set up individual controls.

Homeowners can either specify which adult sites they want to receive or put a cinema-style classification on their feed to restrict what is received according to age ranges, such as U, 12 or 18. A survey by Psychologies magazine this summer found that one in three children aged 10 in Britain had viewed pornography on the net.

Mr Vaizey said: "This is a very serious matter. I think it is very important that it's the ISPs that come up with solutions to protect children.

"I'm hoping they will get their acts together so we don't have to legislate, but we are keeping an eye on the situation and we will have a new communications bill in the next couple of years."

Claire Perry, the Tory MP for Devizes and a keen lobbyist for more restrictions, said: "Unless we show leadership, the internet industry is not going to self-regulate. The minister has said he will get the ISPs together and say, 'Either you clean out your stables or we are going to do it for you'."

"There is this very uneasy sense for parents of children that we do not have to tolerate this Wild West approach. We are not coming at this from an anti-porn perspective. We just want to make sure our children aren't stumbling across things we don't want them to see."

Previously the Internet Services Providers' Association (ISPA) has told MPs that such a blanket ban would be expensive and technically difficult to operate.

But Miranda Suit, co-founder of the charity Safermedia, which held a conference on internet porn at the Commons last month, said: "Technically we know it can be done because the ISPs are already removing child porn after the government put pressure on them.

"In the past, internet porn was regarded as a moral issue or a matter of taste. Now it has become a mental health issue because we now know the damage it is causing. We are seeing perverse sexual behavior among children. Legislation is both justifiable and feasible."

She quoted the example of two underage brothers sentenced to at least five years' detention this year for a sadistic sex attack on two other boys in South Yorkshire. The brothers were said to have had a "toxic" home life where they were exposed to pornography.

This weekend some ISPs appeared ready to introduce an "opt in" clause voluntarily. Andrew Heaney, executive director of strategy and regulation for TalkTalk, said: "Our objective was not to do what the politicians want us to do but to do what was right by our customers.

"If other companies aren't going to do it of their own volition, then maybe they should be leant on. Legislation is a sledgehammer but it could work."

A spokeswoman for Virgin Media said: "We already have an opt-in approach on mobiles. We've taken this approach as mobiles are taken out of the home - and kept in a pocket - whereas parents can control what happens within the home and online "We're able to block sites, so it would be possible to do the same on the internet. It is just about finding the right approach."

A spokesman for BT, which has a "clean feed" system to block access to illegal sites, said: "We do what we can to protect children."

The ISPA did not return calls to London's Sunday Times.
As it stands some ISPs have said that the plans are not really feasible but still our communications minister is fairly sure of some system being in place. Thing is, does it really matter aside from traditional Government censorship? Plus as it's the terror of children being given access to interwebs will it stop anything anyway? If it's sexualisation of the kiddies that's the problem then are they going to be moving on to banning adverts for cars and MTV? I highly doubt that'll be the case.

How long before the whole thing is scrapped then?
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Re: Adult sites blockage

Post by necronom » Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:39 pm

I saw this on Slashdot earlier:
"UK ISPs have responded to culture minister Ed Vaisey's comments regarding pervasive, opt-out only porn filtering, bringing up many of the technical and civil-liberties issues also raised on Slashdot. In response to the government proposal, Nicholas Lansman, secretary general of the Ispa industry body, said: 'Ispa firmly believes that controls on children's access to the internet should be managed by parents and carers with the tools ISPs provide, rather than being imposed top-down.' Trefor Davies, chief technology officer at ISP Timico, commented that 'Unfortunately, it's technically not possible to completely block this stuff. You end up with a system that's either hugely expensive and a losing battle because there are millions of these sites or it's just not effective. The cost of putting these systems in place outweigh the benefits, to my mind.' Mr. Davies also feared that any wide-scale attempt to police pornographic content would soon be expanded to include pirated pop songs, films and TV shows. 'If we take this step it will not take very long to end up with an internet that's a walled garden of sites the governments is happy for you to see,' he said."
The bit at the end is the REALLY worrying part. We will end up with the Internet that China has if they start with this.
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Re: Adult sites blockage

Post by The Angry Jock » Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:06 pm

When did Great Britain become a regime? I may have to think about moving to China.
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Post by Antiriad2097 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:28 pm

Given the Government can't even block pr0n on its own network, its a bit much asking ISPs to do it nationally.
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Post by TMR » Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:50 pm

Antiriad2097 wrote:Given the Government can't even block pr0n on its own network, its a bit much asking ISPs to do it nationally.
As it stands, even the filters being applied to schools are nowhere near perfect so, if we're talking about actually protecting children rather than kicking up a media s**tstorm to get attention, putting some cash into improving those services would be the most logical starting point; home connections don't need government-sanctioned filtering because it's too open for abuse of other kinds and keeping kids away from dubious sites at home should be a job for their parents.

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Post by Antiriad2097 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:56 pm

[quote="TMR]kicking up a media s**tstorm to get attention[/quote]
is of course the real objective.

"Look at us, protecting the children, aren't we wonderful".

It'll cost millions and be ineffective, but it won't matter as they'll all have moved on and be working as consultants on extortionate fees by then having claimed its mere launch to be a success regardless of results.

'Success' has a whole other meaning in Government.
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Re: Adult sites blockage

Post by TyronW » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:05 pm

Antiriad2097 wrote:Given the Government can't even block pr0n on its own network, its a bit much asking ISPs to do it nationally.

It also took Retro Gamer a good few hours to remove some unwanted pawn a week back...shame the mod deleted the thread, was rather amusing :(
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Post by Lorfarius » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:22 pm

TMR wrote:
Antiriad2097 wrote:Given the Government can't even block pr0n on its own network, its a bit much asking ISPs to do it nationally.
As it stands, even the filters being applied to schools are nowhere near perfect so
I work in a Secondary school and the web filter which is forcibly applied by the local council is quite frankly a joke. All it takes to get round is using one of the many millions of proxy avoidance sites and they skip right past it.
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Re: Adult sites blockage

Post by IronMaidenRule » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:26 pm

Lorfarius wrote:
TMR wrote:
Antiriad2097 wrote:Given the Government can't even block pr0n on its own network, its a bit much asking ISPs to do it nationally.
As it stands, even the filters being applied to schools are nowhere near perfect so
I work in a Secondary school and the web filter which is forcibly applied by the local council is quite frankly a joke. All it takes to get round is using one of the many millions of proxy avoidance sites and they skip right past it.
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Post by Lorfarius » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:53 pm

Nope, EMBC.
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Re: Adult sites blockage

Post by Sega2006 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:59 pm

Whats the point of blocking it anyway, some bored teenager will find a way around it and then millions more will follow suit.
Getting ISP's to block pron isnt the way to do it, why not just better educate parents and those who deal with children on how to prevent them getting to it in the first place? Such as monitoring their childrens web use, using appropiate web filters or even just sit with them when they use it?
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Post by ToxieDogg » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:18 pm

Sega2006 wrote:Whats the point of blocking it anyway, some bored teenager will find a way around it and then millions more will follow suit.
Getting ISP's to block pron isnt the way to do it, why not just better educate parents and those who deal with children on how to prevent them getting to it in the first place? Such as monitoring their childrens web use, using appropiate web filters or even just sit with them when they use it?
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Re: Adult sites blockage

Post by ReplayRetro » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:43 am

well i've been thinking for a while now as i knew there had to be some comedy in this somewhere but sadly all i've come up with is as follows;

"Adult sites blockage" hmmm i dont know what you're talking about but adult sites have cleared a few of my blockages in the past, ba dum tish
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Re: Adult sites blockage

Post by RMLF » Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:23 am

How about a look at the source.. An Australian Newspaper as per original post and remember that they are trying to put through and justify their own Great Australian Firewall.

So there is no reason for them to run a story like this and slant it in a specific way is there? :wink: "Ooh Britain is gunna have one of these too so we must be right?"

Afaik this a fall out from the Digital Act which was one of the last acts of the Labour government.
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