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Re: What grinds your gears ?

Post by theantmeister » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:27 pm

QuantumCrayons wrote:
theantmeister wrote: The 40% bracket is £35k to £150k. I only just make that bracket and I can promise you, I don't enjoy the same quality of life as someone who earns nearly 5 times my censored salary. How is that fair?!?
I thought you only got taxed at the money that fell above the boundary?
Yeah, true. Still grinds my gears though and any extra money I now earn, say from my pathetic savings account, is now taxed at 40%.

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Re: What grinds your gears ?

Post by do_sucol » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:49 pm

greenberet79 wrote:And while I'm in a mood!

The generation before me - thanks for putting property prices up so we can't afford them. Houses that people bought for £50k twenty years ago, and the owners trying to sell them for £250k.

Thanks for fking up the economy. Ah, but at least most of you will get a nice pension as you retire at 60. The rest of us are fked for life.
They didn't fcuk the economy !

The lenders/banks et all had a lovely (fraudlent)scheme(scam) going for years!They were doing this on a global wide scale ,they knew the bubble they created would eventually burst ,but quickly made as much money out of their scheme as they could .And now they are allowing them to trade more toxic loans onto the pensions .One scam stop and the money men are allowed to start another fraud ,so the people can bail the twats out again .

Blame those pensioners and mortgage owners from days gone past ,as teh are teh cause ,ses teh government .

Find your own information on TOXIC LOANS ,instead of being ignorant of the facts (but this is the way people act these days ,they follow what joe said,who followed what jack said etc etc etc .Not a single one of them down this long line of hearsay ,actually questions if what's been said is fact or fiction ,because it's easier to follow the sheeple heard mentality ,than it is to go and find stuff out for yourself ! :lol:

IGNORANCE IS BLISS (until it comes with a penalty notice ,because you broke their rule of the day (a rule that could only be enforced if you were a member ))

Do you think mc donalds policies could be forced onto non mc donalds employees ?The bma to abide by the BAR society's rules ? Of course not,but that's what people are doing to all the ignorant people out there today :lol: Issuing penalty notices for breaking rules that don't apply to non members .

Stupid twits ,you deserve everything you get !

Next week they might come up with a new rule which needs you to hop backwards (an act/legislation and call it the "law" :roll: ,but because it's an act = a "rule" of society (no injured human(party) is involved)) ,consent is need to apply that rule to non members.

Most of the ignorant population would um and arr about it,but ultimately they would pay the penalty notice for failing to hop backwards !

It's just like watching children being told off by their parents (hence the "nanny state"),but the fact is you are still children! You behave and act like children ,ask when you can do something,have to be told when you can do it and you never question what the nanny tells you to do .

When you're a child ,you ask if you can have a biscuit.When you're an adult ,you go and get them yourself.

Now now children :idea:
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Re: What grinds your gears ?

Post by The Angry Jock » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:20 pm

theantmeister wrote:I want to know why the censored a person who earns £150 GRAND a year only pays 5% more income tax than me?!? Assuming, of course, they bother to pay it AT ALL.

The 40% bracket is £35k to £150k. I only just make that bracket and I can promise you, I don't enjoy the same quality of life as someone who earns nearly 5 times my censored salary. How is that fair?!?
So in order to make things "fair" you would take more money from the people who take the least*?

*in terms of benefits from the state.

I think a lot of people in this country need to seriously re-examine what "fair" actually means, because all I'm seeing is pettiness and jealousy.

If you ask me, we should all be paying the same rate of tax, anyone earning over £20k (hypothetically speaking) should pay 20% tax over that allowance. All business should be taxed at the same rate. KEEP IT SIMPLE!

problem is we have spineless Government (this one less so than Labour) and too many people with big mouths and theirs hands out....it's sickening.
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Re: What grinds your gears ?

Post by DreamcastRIP » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:59 pm

The Angry Jock wrote:... I think a lot of people in this country need to seriously re-examine what "fair" actually means, because all I'm seeing is pettiness and jealousy.
Well said that man! I get so tired of hearing what people (not necessarily on here) describe as being 'fair' when what they're actually pushing is their own socialist interpretation of what 'fair' is.
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Re: What grinds your gears ?

Post by pratty » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:56 pm

do_sucol wrote:
greenberet79 wrote:And while I'm in a mood!

The generation before me - thanks for putting property prices up so we can't afford them. Houses that people bought for £50k twenty years ago, and the owners trying to sell them for £250k.

Thanks for fking up the economy. Ah, but at least most of you will get a nice pension as you retire at 60. The rest of us are fked for life.
They didn't fcuk the economy !

The lenders/banks et all had a lovely (fraudlent)scheme(scam) going for years!They were doing this on a global wide scale ,they knew the bubble they created would eventually burst ,but quickly made as much money out of their scheme as they could .And now they are allowing them to trade more toxic loans onto the pensions .One scam stop and the money men are allowed to start another fraud ,so the people can bail the twats out again .
Yeah, bailing out the current crooked banking/monetary system (and I'm not talking about capitalism) is just throwing petrol on the fire. We're well overdue a new honest and healthy system, surely all these economists can think of something better than what we've currently got.
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Re: What grinds your gears ?

Post by oli_lar » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:01 pm

greenberet79 wrote: Seriously, that's a front page story? Fck me, what a country we live in.
The military coup in Mali a few days ago doesn't seem to have had any attention at all. There needs to be an independent not for profit organisation that doesn't use TV ratings, to supplement reuters & the news vendors.

Tightening the controls on what constitutes as news output for terrestrial TV channels is another one - sport and celebrity tittle tattle aren't news, god knows how channel 5 got away with 'live from studio 5'.

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Re: What grinds your gears ?

Post by pratty » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:07 pm

oli_lar wrote:
greenberet79 wrote: Seriously, that's a front page story? Fck me, what a country we live in.
The military coup in Mali a few days ago doesn't seem to have had any attention at all. There needs to be an independent not for profit organisation that doesn't use TV ratings, to supplement reuters & the news vendors.

Tightening the controls on what constitutes as news output for terrestrial TV channels is another one - sport and celebrity tittle tattle aren't news, god knows how channel 5 got away with 'live from studio 5'.
I'm reminded about a quote by the Radio Presenter Tommy Boyd about the news. It was something like "The public must never find out how the news, and sausages, are made." :lol:
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Re: What grinds your gears ?

Post by ToxieDogg » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:28 pm

DreamcastRIP wrote:Well said that man! I get so tired of hearing what people (not necessarily on here) describe as being 'fair' when what they're actually pushing is their own socialist interpretation of what 'fair' is.
So a socialist's interpretation of what is fair isn't valid in your opinion?

The problem I have with non-socialist viewpoints on the situation is that for the most part (obviously I don't mean all, but certainly the majority of what I've heard and read) they're all so self centered, all 'as long as I'm all right, then the rest of you can go and fcuk yourselves', the whole 'dog eat dog' survival of the fittest type mentality. Fair enough if that's what works best for you and yours, but that kind of an attitude towards the world just isn't for everyone I'm afraid.

To me, all you're doing is pushing your own non-socialist interpretation of what 'fair' is.

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Re: What grinds your gears ?

Post by pratty » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:06 pm

I'm not going to try to get into arguments with people, so I'm just going to say my piece and bow out. In my opinion people would do well to look beyond capitalism vs socialism. The right/left paradigm just seems like a divide and conquer tactic to me, with the business and political elite (monopolists and collectivists one and all) running both sides to that end.
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Re: What grinds your gears ?

Post by The Angry Jock » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:22 pm

ToxieDogg wrote:The problem I have with non-socialist viewpoints on the situation is that for the most part (obviously I don't mean all, but certainly the majority of what I've heard and read) they're all so self centered, all 'as long as I'm all right, then the rest of you can go and fcuk yourselves', the whole 'dog eat dog' survival of the fittest type mentality. Fair enough if that's what works best for you and yours, but that kind of an attitude towards the world just isn't for everyone I'm afraid.
What you've described there fits into all 'classes' (for want of a better word) of British society, more so from those who are reliant on the money provided by the well off, I imagine it's because they outnumber them 70 to 1.

Out of interest, what do you do to help society? Since I assume you don't fit into the above statement.
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Re: What grinds your gears ?

Post by thevulture » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:28 pm

:? Forum gone all 'Radio 4' all of a sudden?

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Re: What grinds your gears ?

Post by crusto » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:40 pm

Someone once said to me that to the average joe all a change of government usually equates to is plus or minus £50-100 per month. A simple assessment, but surprisingly accurate. They're all teenucs if you ask me. Just after more and more ways to fund their moats.

Will be interesting to see what excuses they invent to heavily tax green fuels when they become more commonplace.
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Re: What grinds your gears ?

Post by The Angry Jock » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:55 pm

Taxes always go up because MPs like Gordon Brown can only win an election by buying votes, this can only be done up to a point.

This country is completely ignorant of politics, all most voters are interested in is how much more they can get, regardless of how it's paid for.
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Re: What grinds your gears ?

Post by theantmeister » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:05 pm

The Angry Jock wrote:If you ask me, we should all be paying the same rate of tax, anyone earning over £20k (hypothetically speaking) should pay 20% tax over that allowance. All business should be taxed at the same rate. KEEP IT SIMPLE!
I completely agree. The only way it could be completely fair is if we all paid the same rate. But hey, that's not the system we have and if I'm going to get fucked harder than the lower income people then I want people on a higher income than me to get fucked even harder. :P

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Re: What grinds your gears ?

Post by The Angry Jock » Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:59 am

Unfortunately an increasing scale of f*ckedness makes the system ever more complicated and holier than Rab Cs vest.
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