Was the Spectrum just a big Gameboy?

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Post by Cornelius » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:23 am

There's more factors against the assumption. I can find very little in common between the two.

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Post by Smurph » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:49 am

They both had little gremlins on timy bikes powering them, so yeah, they're the same.


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Post by Sega2006 » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:51 am

felgekarp wrote:Does this mean the C64 was a Gamegear and the Amstrad was a Turd?
Fixed :wink:

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Post by Bub&Bob » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:22 am

Sega2006 wrote:
felgekarp wrote:Does this mean the C64 was a Gamegear and the Amstrad was a Turd?
Fixed :wink:
Oi, I think that's out of order - nothing wrong with turds.
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Post by Opa-Opa » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:28 am

I like to have a least one good turd a day, I wouldn't want a CPC ever... :)

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Post by RocketRanger » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:34 am

It must be so hard to maintain interest in retro systems when you hold so much childhood hatred towards one format.

Maybe one day someone will invent time-travel so that you can go back, kill Alan Sugar and live in a time line where the CPC never existed and you can all sleep at night.

Also, those video phone things too...and um...er

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Post by RocketRanger » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:39 am

Getting back on topic. The Z80 era did result in many Spectrum/CPC assembly coders moving on to work on Gameboy titles in Britain.

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Post by pocketmego » Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:47 pm

RocketRanger wrote:Getting back on topic. The Z80 era did result in many Spectrum/CPC assembly coders moving on to work on Gameboy titles in Britain.
Now, this is a good response.

Maybe that is what it is. Perhaps the games bare a solid similarity to some of the Spectrum's best due to the programmers and not the hardware per say.

Perhaps many of the people working on Gameboy games (especially those you mentioned) used and programmed on it like they would have on a Spectrum, to some extent.

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Post by TMR » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:52 pm

pocketmego wrote:Perhaps many of the people working on Gameboy games (especially those you mentioned) used and programmed on it like they would have on a Spectrum, to some extent.
The huge difference between the two machines means that you simply can't directly transfer those skills from one to the other in that way; anyone moving from the Z80-based machines to the Sharp in the Gameboy had to stop using the shadow registers and the way that the screen and moving objects are handled are very different so that'd need re-learning too. And don't forget that many commercial programmers didn't make a direct leap from a Z80-based 8-bit to the Gameboy, many like the Stampers (for a random example) went via the NES and that hardware is far more akin to the Gameboy on the video front.

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Post by RocketRanger » Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:49 am

TMR wrote:
The huge difference between the two machines means that you simply can't directly transfer those skills from one to the other in that way; anyone moving from the Z80-based machines to the Sharp in the Gameboy had to stop using the shadow registers and the way that the screen and moving objects are handled are very different so that'd need re-learning too. And don't forget that many commercial programmers didn't make a direct leap from a Z80-based 8-bit to the Gameboy, many like the Stampers (for a random example) went via the NES and that hardware is far more akin to the Gameboy on the video front.
Professional programming is about adapting to new environments and technology all the time. I certainly knew some old 8-bit programmers who moved straight on to the Gameboy (Colour in fact) and got it to do amazing things.

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Post by TMR » Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:09 am

RocketRanger wrote:Professional programming is about adapting to new environments and technology all the time.
[Nods] That's pretty much where i was going in a somewhat meandering way, i think... =-)
RocketRanger wrote:I certainly knew some old 8-bit programmers who moved straight on to the Gameboy (Colour in fact) and got it to do amazing things.
Yup, and by that point the development houses were really going for getting as many programmers in as possible to meet demand and a couple of the UK-based firms approached me and the rest of Cosine despite us being 6502 bunnies!

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Post by Dudley » Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:21 am

RocketRanger wrote: Professional programming is about adapting to new environments and technology all the time. I certainly knew some old 8-bit programmers who moved straight on to the Gameboy (Colour in fact) and got it to do amazing things.
Agreed, but that's only an argument for them being different.
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Post by Bub&Bob » Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:55 am

RocketRanger wrote:It must be so hard to maintain interest in retro systems when you hold so much childhood hatred towards one format.

Maybe one day someone will invent time-travel so that you can go back, kill Alan Sugar and live in a time line where the CPC never existed and you can all sleep at night.

Also, those video phone things too...and um...er
I don't really have a prob with the CPC - in fact, there are plenty of games which are fantastic and much better than the C64.

Slating one format over another for me is just harmless fun. I know there are some here who take great offense but I don't really see why. I often read stuff about the washed out colours / blocky graphics etc of the C64 but I don't really care.
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Post by RocketRanger » Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:05 am

Bub&Bob wrote: Slating one format over another for me is just harmless fun. I know there are some here who take great offense but I don't really see why. I often read stuff about the washed out colours / blocky graphics etc of the C64 but I don't really care.
It only hurts when Opa Opa gets involved...He's so.....mean.... him and his weekday-retro-telly-wotsits gang :roll:

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Post by Antiriad2097 » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:38 am

RocketRanger wrote:
Bub&Bob wrote: Slating one format over another for me is just harmless fun. I know there are some here who take great offense but I don't really see why. I often read stuff about the washed out colours / blocky graphics etc of the C64 but I don't really care.
It only hurts when Opa Opa gets involved...He's so.....mean.... him and his weekday-retro-telly-wotsits gang :roll:
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