Which is better: Sinclair or Amstrad?

Discuss and discover all the great games of yesteryear!

Moderators: mknott, NickThorpe, lcarlson, Darran@Retro Gamer, MMohammed

Which is better: Sinclair or Amstrad?

Sinclair
36
63%
Amstrad
21
37%
 
Total votes: 57

User avatar
felgekarp
Posts: 9351
Joined: Fri May 05, 2006 11:47 am
Location: Earth 3

Post by felgekarp » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:06 am

woody.cool wrote:
Batman - horrible to control on a Speccy 48K - the monochrome graphics made some puzzles tough.

Head Over Heels - see Batman
What was it made these 2 horrible to control then, I would have thought they'd have the same control method on all machines?
Splink!

User avatar
forestville
Posts: 852
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:30 am
Location: Tamworth UK

Post by forestville » Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:56 am

It's Sinclair all the way for me, they are only owned by Amstrad, Maybe Sinclair could make a bit for freedom


:D
Press play on tape

User avatar
oli_lar
Posts: 4148
Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:26 pm

Post by oli_lar » Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:23 pm

The Master wrote:
oli_lar wrote:One of them is compatable with the Spectrum +3 and PCW computers which is interesting - but I guess that particular model was virtually a CPC anyway with the built in Amstrad type floppy drive?
The 3 machines definitely weren't binary compatible, but they all used the same weirdo "Captain Scarlet" 3" floppies and filing system, so chances are they've just bunged on 3 different versions onto the same disc. What game is it?
Makes sense.
- Its Scapeghost..never heard of it before

User avatar
woody.cool
Posts: 8809
Joined: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:29 am
Location: Northampton, UK
Contact:

Post by woody.cool » Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:27 pm

felgekarp wrote:
woody.cool wrote:
Batman - horrible to control on a Speccy 48K - the monochrome graphics made some puzzles tough.

Head Over Heels - see Batman
What was it made these 2 horrible to control then, I would have thought they'd have the same control method on all machines?
The rubber keyboard on the 48K and the horrible keyboard on the 48+ and the 128+ - however control is much better with the decent keyboards supplied on the +2 and later models.

User avatar
Antiriad2097
Posts: 26961
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:48 pm
Location: http://s11.zetaboards.com/RetroLeague/
Contact:

Post by Antiriad2097 » Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:38 pm

woody.cool wrote:
felgekarp wrote:
woody.cool wrote:
Batman - horrible to control on a Speccy 48K - the monochrome graphics made some puzzles tough.

Head Over Heels - see Batman
What was it made these 2 horrible to control then, I would have thought they'd have the same control method on all machines?
The rubber keyboard on the 48K and the horrible keyboard on the 48+ and the 128+ - however control is much better with the decent keyboards supplied on the +2 and later models.
I prefer the rubber keys to any of the later models for gaming. Batman and Head Over Heels were both very responsive. We used an early model though - we had a later one but the rubber was stiffer and not so nice so we used sticks for that. Some games just worked better on keyboard though.
The Retro League - Where skill isn't an obstacle
Retrocanteen, home of the unfairly banned
Tom_Baker wrote:I just finished watching a film about Stockholm syndrome. It started out terrible but by the end I really liked it.

User avatar
batman877
Posts: 1624
Joined: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:53 am
Location: Derbyshire

Post by batman877 » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:56 am

IMHO the Amstrad was the better machine.

The Spectrum was much more popular and successful. As such, many believe it to be better.

I feel that both machines were very similar in terms of technology. The main difference being that the Amstrad had more colours available. However, the use of these colours often slowed the processor down.

The quality of each machine really shows through the programmers ability to make good, playable games - there were plenty for both.

oswald
Posts: 652
Joined: Fri May 04, 2007 7:55 am

Post by oswald » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:01 pm

TMR wrote:it's locked for the 16K and 48K machines, the 128K hardware can relocate the screen and i believe attribute RAM.
I think it doesnt has attribute ram, otherwise the nr of colors wont be in a opposite relation with the resolution.

oswald
Posts: 652
Joined: Fri May 04, 2007 7:55 am

Post by oswald » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:04 pm

nwosteve wrote:You cannot compare these things, they are fundamentally different
where? same cpu and same soundchip...

oswald
Posts: 652
Joined: Fri May 04, 2007 7:55 am

Post by oswald » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:07 pm

merman wrote:To my mind, programmers got more out of the Spectrum because they had to learn how to make do with the limitations.
the reason for that was that the speccy was more popular, longer lifespan, more games ported, it all pushed the programmers to make better games especially later when games quality got higher and higher.

gury
Posts: 107
Joined: Fri May 04, 2007 4:45 am
Contact:

Post by gury » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:40 pm

Deleted
Last edited by gury on Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
You are welcome to visit http://gury.atari8.info/

gury
Posts: 107
Joined: Fri May 04, 2007 4:45 am
Contact:

Post by gury » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:43 pm

Spector wrote: The spectrum 128K models have a 48K mode in built that makes it work almost exactly like an original 48K Spectrum. There are compatiblilty issues, but 98% of games work on the Spectrum Plus 2. The most compatible version is the original (and rarest) 128K Spectrum released just before Sugar bought Sinclair over. Sugar would bring his magic to the Spectrum over the next few years, with his legendary Datacorder, with cheesy rainbow logo, ultra slow rewind and no tape counter. Oh, and the disk drive was great too. And the joysticks were legendary for both the minutes that they worked. Thanks, Sir Alan :x
Thanks for explanation Spector. So, if original 128K Spectrum was rare, what about Spectrum Plus 2. If not 100% compatible, was it more common among later Spectrum users?
You are welcome to visit http://gury.atari8.info/

User avatar
The Master
Posts: 7252
Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:01 pm
Location: the isle of everywhere

Post by The Master » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:46 pm

Unfotunately, as eBay has repeatedly proven to me, there are far more +2s floating about than any other Speccy, due to the unholy curse of alan sugar's goddamn beard. Not nice, not nice at all...

User avatar
paranoid marvin
Posts: 14272
Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:28 pm
Location: 21st Century Earth

Post by paranoid marvin » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:46 pm

gury wrote:
Spector wrote: The spectrum 128K models have a 48K mode in built that makes it work almost exactly like an original 48K Spectrum. There are compatiblilty issues, but 98% of games work on the Spectrum Plus 2. The most compatible version is the original (and rarest) 128K Spectrum released just before Sugar bought Sinclair over. Sugar would bring his magic to the Spectrum over the next few years, with his legendary Datacorder, with cheesy rainbow logo, ultra slow rewind and no tape counter. Oh, and the disk drive was great too. And the joysticks were legendary for both the minutes that they worked. Thanks, Sir Alan :x
Thanks for explanation Spector. So, if original 128K Spectrum was rare, what about Spectrum Plus 2. If not 100% compatible, was it more common among later Spectrum users?
the +2 (and +2A) are by far the most common 'advanced' Speccies , possibly thanks to Sugar's ability to manufacture and sell Amstrad's products at a frightening rate
Mr Flibble says...
"Game over , boys!"

User avatar
The Master
Posts: 7252
Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:01 pm
Location: the isle of everywhere

Post by The Master » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:54 pm

That's kind of what I said, but with proper words...

User avatar
paranoid marvin
Posts: 14272
Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:28 pm
Location: 21st Century Earth

Post by paranoid marvin » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:56 pm

The Master wrote:That's kind of what I said, but with proper words...
I prefer your version! :D
Mr Flibble says...
"Game over , boys!"

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests