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Re: Fed up with Modern Gaming

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:45 am
by rossi46
GovanGer wrote: I'm looking to pick up a Saturn again
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Good man!

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:52 am
by GovanGer
I had a saturn when it was out.

But being at school at the time, and not having loads of cash, I never really got to try a lot of games.

I have a DC just now and it is my favourite console of all time, so I'm looking forward to trying out the Saturn games I never played in the past

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:07 pm
by paranoid marvin
I must admit I too am disullusioned with most modern day games - I think one of the reasons is that so many games get so much hype , that when we play one and are disappointed , we assume we ourselves are to blame because we were ambivalent to it - many games now may have good graphics/sound , but are very mediocre.; it's paint-by-numbers gaming


I recently gt into LOTR Online , which has changed my opinion somewhat - joining up with other players to battle enemies is a fresh experience , and well recommended if you have a PC

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:20 pm
by Antiriad2097
This is one of the reasons I've stayed a generation behind for the last couple. I got excited about PS1, but after that there was so much samey stuff I couldn't get excited. Got a GC a couple of years late and picked up the key titles for that and it was great. Inside the last year I've picked up a PS2 and X-Box 1 and I'm buying all the games that still have a following and its great. Nothing costs more than a fiver and they're top notch titles. I'm having a blast. In a couple of years I'll maybe do the same with the 360. Let the hype die down, the chaff will be long forgotten and its easy to pick up the golden stuff.

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:42 pm
by The Master
I'm just getting excited about PS1 right now...

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:56 pm
by Sabreman
With me it's not a case of being fed up with modern gaming, it's more a case of gaming having moved into areas that I haven't been interested in following. I'm determinedly stuck in a 16-bit mindset, and barring a very few examples there really isn't anything in the commercial marketplace that speaks to me as an improvement or even an equal in gameplay or enjoyment over what I was playing on the SNES or Amiga. There are too many bloated productions, too many expensive retreads that don't actually offer anything more than eye candy and technical specs to make your system of choice groan with the effort.

The solution to this malaise, I have found much to my delight, is indie gaming. I've been occupying my game time almost exclusively with this stuff for over a year, and I'm having a blast. Remakes, freeware, small-scale shareware... there's a great deal of tremendous stuff out there for the finding, and because it's developed by people with a similar mindset and comparatively limited resources it tends to be very fresh and fun. Oldschool platformers you can play through in an hour or two, highscore-centric arcade games (highscore quests never lose their appeal to me), and shiny remakes of old classics that take what made the original great but add just enough polish to bring them into the 21st century.

New stuff is popping up all the time (just keep an eye on places like Independent Gaming and TIG Source). I'll run the risk of playing the Cave Story card, but I genuinely think it's every bit the equal of any classic 16-bit platformer you could care to mention, and it's free.

Here are some of my favourite homebrew and indie games:

http://www.binaryzoo.com/games/echoes/ Echoes - an Asteroids-like arena shooter.

http://xout.blackened-interactive.com/Gravitron.html - Gravitron. Beautiful glowing-vector remake and expansion.

http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA022293/ - Guxt. Pixel's lovely little shmup.

http://nifflas.ni2.se/index.php?main=03 ... eep_Forest - Within A Deep Forest. Atmospheric adventure reminiscent of Wizball.

http://www.sitesled.com/members/bogo/lyle.html - Lyle In Cube Sector. Chunky and great platformer with a nifty twist.

http://wiebo.wordpress.com/my-pc-games/ - The sublime Thrust Extreme.

http://typhoon.kuto.de/download.html - Typhoon 2001, or... the best version of Tempest you can get.

http://myweb.cableone.net/gmcnutt/nazghul.html - Haxima. Like Ultima V? You'll LOVE this.

http://www.wesnoth.org/ - turn-based strategy, superbly presented and improving all the time.

The Big Three Roguelikes:

http://angband.oook.cz/download.php - Angband.
http://crawlj.sourceforge.jp/down_e.html - Dungeon Crawl (my favourite).
http://www.nethack.org/ - Nethack.

Evolution of Roguelikes:

http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/ - Dwarf Fortress. Insanely detailed stuff.
http://www.santiagoz.com/web/news.php Castlevania Roguelike (among others), anyone?
http://doom.chaosforge.org/ - Doom, the Roguelike. It works! Honest!

That's just a small sample of the kind of stuff that's out there. Seriously, looking at the console market is almost a waste of time for a retro head. If you like your old-style stuff all you need is a modest PC and a net connection.

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:05 pm
by Mickey T
I always return to Warcraft when we get a lull in titles.

I dont think that its the games or developers fault, victims of gamings success both.
The point is games can recreate almost anything in the known universe and since most of us have been playing for a long time we have flown across galaxies, slain dragons, rescued the princess, driven the fastest vehichles in the world/universe, created and destroyed planets, built civilisations, recreated history, ran farms, driven foklifts, mastered countless martial arts and enchantments, solved and created crimes, been victims and persecutors, been the star of horror stories, jumped casms, been the star in our favourite movies and learnt to fish and play instruments. the list goes on, its going to be one hell of a game that makes us say, wow we havent seen or done that before. Absolutley nothing to do with todays games being staid.
Check out the kick at the end of Rainbow Six Vegas, has you gagging for the next installment as you complete it.

Re: Fed up with Modern Gaming

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:13 am
by pocketmego
Yup, except for a few games on my PSP (largely retro-remakes) I've given it up almost entirely. I'm totally about Retro gaming. In fact, I don't consider my hobby gaming. I consider it a serious interest in the history of video and computer games.

I read as much retrogaming stuff as I do playing.

So, yes, actually. I'm utterly disillusioned.

-Ray


GovanGer wrote:Hey folks.

Been reading this forum for a few weeks now but I've only just registered.

I've got an Xbox 360 at the moment, but I am completely and utterly bored with modern games.

If it's not Generic WW2 shooter 43 it's Fifa 200X. I am sick of the flashy graphics and non-existent gameplay.

So i've got the old Dreamcast out again and it's like a breath of fresh air!

I'm looking to pick up a Saturn again now as well but it's hard to find any decent games - most shops only have manky copies of Fifa 97!

Is anyone else completely disillusioned with modern gaming?

Tired of modern games

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:53 am
by 8bitgamer
I'm tired of 3D games. I wish modern consoles had more 2D titles, such as a new Mario game.

http://brettweisswords.blogspot.com/

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:53 am
by Dudley
Like the one released just last year you mean?

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:06 am
by Type2XS
New Super Mario Bros was a blast. Unfortunately much too easy on certain parts :(

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:49 am
by Spector
Modern gaming isn't trying to appeal to its audience in the same way as games did twenty years ago, and there's not much you can do to change that. Virtually every game released on the Xbox 360 or PS3 consoles that is considered groundbreaking is a 15 or 18 certificate. That wasn't the case in the 80s. If you want to be cutting edge nowadays, you gotta get nasty.

Of course, the Wii comes along and goes against the grain, but I'm still not convinced that it will be a long term success.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:59 am
by SpecChum81
Hi Guys!

It's been a while, so I thouht I'd add my two pennies worth here

There ARE a lot of really good modern games out there (Warcraft III, GTA)

HOWEVER, give me the Spectrum or Megadrive ANY day!

Games were so much more fu, and so much more about HAVING fun while playing. And there's a certain level of innonce in the older games.

Plus I think they're also a lot better...

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:16 am
by Dudley
Spector wrote:Modern gaming isn't trying to appeal to its audience in the same way as games did twenty years ago, and there's not much you can do to change that. Virtually every game released on the Xbox 360 or PS3 consoles that is considered groundbreaking is a 15 or 18 certificate. That wasn't the case in the 80s. If you want to be cutting edge nowadays, you gotta get nasty.

Of course, the Wii comes along and goes against the grain, but I'm still not convinced that it will be a long term success.
Well that's a function of graphics, plus we didn't have rating for games in this country until 1993 so it's difficult to know what rating some games might have got.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:25 am
by SirClive
I'm not fed up of modern gaming. I am loving Resi 4 and Mario Strikers on Wii and can't wait for Fable 2 on Xbox 360.

The point isn't that modern gaming is crap, it's that retro gaming still has a lot to offer. I would probably be about a 65% retro gamer and a 35% modern gamer (if you use the simple split of current gen = modern, anything older is retro).