Tempest 4000 Announced

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Re: Tempest 4000 Announced

Post by The Last Ginja » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:17 am

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I hardly think it's expensive, I paid £50 for Tempest 2000 back in the day, adjusted for inflation that's over £100!

I've paid more for far worse games over the years I can assure you!

I think there is this stigma that because it's not a triple A release from a big publisher that it's somehow not worth it, but I can see myself playing this game for years to come, unlike many of the big name games where you complete it and then never touch it again.
Not at all.

Look at the pricing of similar games made by Jeff over the years e.g Space Giraffe launched at around £4, TxK about £8, Polybius £14?

Next look at Ikaruga it's original physical release launched at £40 on GC and DC, sold for £8 on 360 and now Ikaruga is out on Switch is £13.49. Atari have over inflated their price for this game.

I never denied it isn't good, although I obviously haven't played it. I can however guess if it's anything like T2K or T3K then it is good and I will like it.

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Re: Tempest 4000 Announced

Post by Antiriad2097 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:35 am

Ikaruga is hardly a fair comparison, being a port rather than a new game. The hardware is well emulated, so they don't need to do much to get it running on other hardware.

That said, comparing a £50 cart release to a digital download doesn't really compare either.

As a launch price, £25 isn't wildly out there, though I can't see myself paying that much, it's not quite within that impulse buy/doesn't matter if I don't play much range like Ikaruga's sub £15 price.
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Re: Tempest 4000 Announced

Post by The Last Ginja » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:55 am

Antiriad2097 wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:35 am
Ikaruga is hardly a fair comparison, being a port rather than a new game. The hardware is well emulated, so they don't need to do much to get it running on other hardware.

That said, comparing a £50 cart release to a digital download doesn't really compare either.

As a launch price, £25 isn't wildly out there, though I can't see myself paying that much, it's not quite within that impulse buy/doesn't matter if I don't play much range like Ikaruga's sub £15 price.

By some accounts(Jeff from Giant Bomb) said on the Bombcast this week that it is practically the same game. He said the music is the same as T2K, he even loaded up the Jag version to be sure. I do agree with you though £15 or thereabouts is an impulse buy and would have garnered many more sales.

How about Radiant Silvergun and Guardian Heroes then, Saturn emulation was hard when they released that on the 360 again for £8 ;)

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Re: Tempest 4000 Announced

Post by DPrinny » Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:20 am

Was gonna buy it

Saw the price,
Ten/fifteen quid and I would of

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Re: Tempest 4000 Announced

Post by The Laird » Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:32 am

The Last Ginja wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:55 am
Antiriad2097 wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:35 am
Ikaruga is hardly a fair comparison, being a port rather than a new game. The hardware is well emulated, so they don't need to do much to get it running on other hardware.

That said, comparing a £50 cart release to a digital download doesn't really compare either.

As a launch price, £25 isn't wildly out there, though I can't see myself paying that much, it's not quite within that impulse buy/doesn't matter if I don't play much range like Ikaruga's sub £15 price.
By some accounts(Jeff from Giant Bomb) said on the Bombcast this week that it is practically the same game. He said the music is the same as T2K, he even loaded up the Jag version to be sure. I do agree with you though £15 or thereabouts is an impulse buy and would have garnered many more sales.

How about Radiant Silvergun and Guardian Heroes then, Saturn emulation was hard when they released that on the 360 again for £8 ;)
With Radiant Silvergun and Guardian Heroes they had the original assets and source code, so porting it was relatively simple.

T4K might be quite similar to T2K, but it's still a brand new game that been coded from the ground up. The only asset it re-uses is the music.

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Re: Tempest 4000 Announced

Post by merman » Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:39 am

Llamasoft and Jeff did not set the price - Atari did.

The T2K music is an OPTIONAL soundtrack. There is a whole new soundtrack in there as well, plus previously unreleased MODs that would have been in T2K but were cut due to cartridge capacity.

It's NOT just Tempest 2000 with new graphics.
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Re: Tempest 4000 Announced

Post by General Opulence » Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:09 pm

I’m waiting for the Atari VCS version that Jeff knows nothing about!

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Re: Tempest 4000 Announced

Post by DPrinny » Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:23 pm

General Opulence wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:09 pm
I’m waiting for the Atari VCS version that Jeff knows nothing about!
You got my hopes up for a 2600 version then

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Re: Tempest 4000 Announced

Post by Matt_B » Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:19 pm

General Opulence wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:09 pm
I’m waiting for the Atari VCS version that Jeff knows nothing about!
Just play the PC version, plonk an old woody next to the TV set, and you can get the feel of it.

You may need to stick a bit of tape over the logo on your controller though.

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Re: Tempest 4000 Announced

Post by sscott » Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:44 pm

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Re: Tempest 4000 Announced

Post by outdated_gamer » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:11 pm

Got it wishlisted on Steam. Same with Space Invaders Extreme.

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Re: Tempest 4000 Announced

Post by Bluce_Ree » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:16 am

I feel a bit let down by this game. The gameplay lacks the risk vs reward element that made Space Giraffe so good, the difficulty level spikes hard on certain stages and graphically it’s a bit of a mess leading to plenty of ‘what killed me’ moments. It also seems to have toned down Jeff’s usual humour.

It feels like the album a band puts out when they want to fulfil their contract and move on.
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