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Post by Lorfarius » Fri May 11, 2007 8:08 am

I take it the Master came with a disc drive built in?
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Post by Mozart » Fri May 11, 2007 8:24 am

The Master Compact did, but not the Master 128 - nor a cassette player, for that matter!
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Post by Mozart » Fri May 11, 2007 11:55 am

Just found this interesting article on a Master upgrade:

http://www.drobe.co.uk/riscos/artifact1557.html
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http://www.sprow.co.uk/bbc/armcopro.htm

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Post by Lorfarius » Fri May 11, 2007 12:43 pm

Could someone have a look at this and tell me if its worth getting? Im only after a Master for playing games :D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BBC-acorn-master- ... dZViewItem
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Post by Mozart » Fri May 11, 2007 12:57 pm

Looks just the ticket to me (although I you'll probably want to dispose of the printer!)
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Post by Lorfarius » Fri May 11, 2007 1:02 pm

Mozart wrote:Looks just the ticket to me (although I you'll probably want to dispose of the printer!)
Was thinking that myself. That TV will also come in handy for Retro North!
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Post by Lorfarius » Fri May 11, 2007 3:37 pm

Just noticed that theres a 40 and 80 disc drive. What difference does that make?
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Post by Matt_B » Fri May 11, 2007 4:32 pm

The 40 or 80 refers to the number of tracks on the disk. 40 track ones are older and have only half the capacity of the 80 track ones.

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Post by Xesh » Fri May 11, 2007 8:24 pm

No one else has mentioned this but the cartridge slots are pin compatible with the ones on the Electron +1. :) Also the Master Compact was to the Master what the Electron was to the Beeb. In other words the Compact was a cut down Master. It had less connections and also didn't come with the extra software (View, Viewsheet, etc.) until later in its life.

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Post by EnglishRob » Sat May 12, 2007 7:15 am

Lorfarius wrote:Could someone have a look at this and tell me if its worth getting? Im only after a Master for playing games :D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BBC-acorn-master- ... dZViewItem
Ooh I remember them printers, we had some of them at school attached to an RM Nimbus.

Ahh those were the days.

I've love to get a Beeb but I haven't got the room.

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Post by Lorfarius » Sat May 12, 2007 3:55 pm

I probably need my head looking at but Ive just dropped £23 on the disc version of Elite today on Ebay.

Also will a BBC Master run Acorn Electron games?
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Post by Matt_B » Sat May 12, 2007 7:04 pm

Lorfarius wrote:Also will a BBC Master run Acorn Electron games?
Generally, not. You might get a few simple games written in BASIC to work, but the sound and video hardware in the Electron work in a totally different way to the BBC. For any Electron game worth playing though, there should be a BBC specific version, so get that instead.

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Post by Xesh » Sun May 13, 2007 3:27 pm

Lorfarius wrote:Also will a BBC Master run Acorn Electron games?
If you do manage to make an Elk game work on the Beeb or Master they will be pretty much unplayable. This is due to the fact that the Elk runs at 1MHz and the Beeb/Master run at least double that. You try playing Repton 2 at twice the speed. :shock:

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Post by Matt_B » Sun May 13, 2007 3:54 pm

Xesh wrote:If you do manage to make an Elk game work on the Beeb or Master they will be pretty much unplayable. This is due to the fact that the Elk runs at 1MHz and the Beeb/Master run at least double that. You try playing Repton 2 at twice the speed. :shock:
The Electron is actually clocked at the same speed. It's just that the video hardware generates so many wait states that you lose half the processing power when executing code from RAM. ROM code runs at full speed though, so BASIC on the Electron is almost as fast as the BBC.

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Post by Lorfarius » Sun May 13, 2007 4:58 pm

Lorfarius wrote:Could someone have a look at this and tell me if its worth getting? Im only after a Master for playing games :D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BBC-acorn-master- ... dZViewItem
Well I went for this in the end. Not a bad little number for £46.

Now if only I can get my hands on Grannies Garden!
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