Atari vs C64 // was: 8-Bit Computer Poll

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Best 8-Bit

ZX Spectrum
109
41%
Commodore 64
121
46%
Amstrad CPC 464
25
10%
BBC Micro
8
3%
 
Total votes: 263

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Post by Tapey297 » Fri May 04, 2007 4:33 am

C64 all the way. I beleive I am right in saying that it had a longer lifespan. QED it must be better/more popular.

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Post by darthy » Fri May 04, 2007 4:38 am

which sold more ? , iam guessing the c64 outsold the spectrum by a fair amount.

and how many did my beloved bbc sell ?
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Post by Matt_B » Fri May 04, 2007 5:36 am

About 17 million C64s were sold. This is about the only hard number we've got though as it came from the report after the company was wound up. All other figures are pretty much anecdotal.

The Spectrum sold about 7 million, plus there were around a million partially compatible Timex TC/TS2068 machines made. However, there were lots of mass produced Spectrum clones which you'll never get any sort of sales figures for.

The Amstrad CPC managed 3 million. The PCW outsold it considerably notching up 6 million units, although it was somewhat marginal as a games machine.

The BBC only managed around 2 million, over half of which were the Model B.

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Post by darthy » Fri May 04, 2007 5:44 am

17 million - thats a fairly big difference
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Post by psj3809 » Fri May 04, 2007 6:12 am

Well the C64 had the US didnt they ? The Speccy was big really in the UK/Spain.

As for who sold the most in the US/Middle East/Europe i dont really care, for me all my friends had Speccys and it was the biggest selling machine in the UK.

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Post by darthy » Fri May 04, 2007 6:16 am

all my friends had c64's and looked down on me and my bbc, gits :lol:
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Post by oswald » Fri May 04, 2007 7:57 am

the c64 is the most sold single computer modell of all time, that decides it. cheers :D

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Post by psj3809 » Fri May 04, 2007 7:59 am

oswald wrote:the c64 is the most sold single computer modell of all time, that decides it. cheers :D
Great point ! Perhaps Take That, Robbie Williams and Boyzone who have sold millions and millions of records are some of the best bands in the world then ?!

Be honest, if you had a Speccy or Amstrad would you vote for the C64 because it sold the most ? Course you wouldnt.

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Post by Bub&Bob » Fri May 04, 2007 8:15 am

psj3809 wrote:
oswald wrote:the c64 is the most sold single computer modell of all time, that decides it. cheers :D
Great point ! Perhaps Take That, Robbie Williams and Boyzone who have sold millions and millions of records are some of the best bands in the world then ?!

Be honest, if you had a Speccy or Amstrad would you vote for the C64 because it sold the most ? Course you wouldnt.
Have to agree - I voted for C64 cos it's my favourite (mainly down to childhood memories, recent emu and the fact that Paradroid in my fav game ever and is only on the C64) not because it sold the most.
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Post by oswald » Fri May 04, 2007 8:23 am

well we could take it to a technical level, the c64 will wash all other 8bits off with its gfx and sfx. and only loose in the cpu speed department. But thats evened when it comes to smooth scrolling and sprites not even the z80 can keep up with nice custom chips.

just a few examples:

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no these are not "interlaced" pictures, they are true 320x200.

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Post by oswald » Fri May 04, 2007 8:31 am

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can you get anywhere close to that? :)

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Post by andrew_rollings » Fri May 04, 2007 8:46 am

Bub&Bob wrote: Have to agree - I voted for C64 cos it's my favourite (mainly down to childhood memories, recent emu and the fact that Paradroid in my fav game ever and is only on the C64) not because it sold the most.
Seriously... Try Quazatron on the Speccy... The scrolling is a little jerky, but I severely preferred that game to Paradroid.
Both of these blew Paradroid 90 away, in any case.

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Post by Emperor Fossil » Fri May 04, 2007 8:49 am

psj3809 wrote:
Emperor Fossil wrote:Light Force, though... urk. I'd never call that a game with tons of color I'm afraid. Plus it has color clash. Any yellow parts of the enemies turn cyan or purple as they move over the planets. It's just that it's hard to notice because everything moves so jerky.
Come on it does have tons of colour ! The colour clash is hardly noticeable at all, never heard anyone say the comment you have.
That it's jerky? Half the enemies appear to move in character block increments or more. For a speccy game, it's reasonably colorful though. But that's the problem... if that game is considered a good looking spectrum game, that says a lot about the poor old speccy's graphics.

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Post by Hern » Fri May 04, 2007 8:53 am

ZX Spectrum for me. :)
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Post by Bub&Bob » Fri May 04, 2007 8:55 am

"can you get anywhere close to that?"

I think you are missing the point. This poll (IMO) is about the whole experience not the technical capabilities or the sales volumes. If it were, there would be no need for the poll. Darran would just look up the stats.

I have recently tried some spectrum / amstrad games and my conclusion is that when each machine is at its best (IE chase HQ for spec, gryzor for AMS, turrican for C64) they are all on a par.

You can't really even compare the same game across all formats as the programer quality may not be related to the hardware.
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