oswald wrote:The c64 has 9 different brightnesses, thats somewhat more variety than speccys 4 (?). on the colorwheel you are right the c64 has 8 hues, and the rest is greys.
The Spectrum actually has 16 different brightnesses i.e. each colour has a different luminosity. The two blacks are very close together so that they're indistinguishable on many TV sets though, so it's often quoted as 15.
It was designed this way, so you'd still get distinct images on a black and white TV set, which were more commonplace in kids bedrooms in the early 80s.
Your colors are like watching TV with saturation on the MAX, in fact all colors are maxxed out which makes for the cheapo average speccy argument: "the c64 colors are washed out, not vivid" Indeed, when watching colors with max saturation all the time, suddenly the real word becomes 'washed out'. your colors are bleeding off the screen, also they are the "coders'" rgb colors noone with a sense for gfx wants to paint with.
Meh. I play games for all manner of computers, not just the Spectrum, as you might have noticed by my comments so far in this thread. You're the one who appears to be wedded to a particular machine.
The C64 is uncommon amongst the early 8-bits in having such a loaded palette though as just about everything else I can think of went for a more even spread. Whilst it certainly makes C64 screenshots look rather distinctive, I don't think you'll find it is universally seen as a good thing.
Helo ?? have your read my lines ?? we can do on each character line 2 totally individual colors then there is one more color can be used thats fix for the char and one more color can be used but its fix for the whole screen. thats almost like totally freely chosable colors anywhere.
Almost maybe, but still not totally.
as you see the c64 colors are absolutely vivid and can be mixed in much more freely than speccy ones.
I'm not sure what you're trying to prove with those pictures or even if you understand what vivid means, so...
Vivid: 1. strikingly bright or intense, as color, light, etc
Since we agree that the Spectrum has more bright and intense colours, it is therefore more suited to vivid pictures.