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Re: What's best: Cartridge, CD-ROM...or cassette??

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:18 am
by thompson9980
Spector wrote:I guess the same goes for the way CD-ROM replaced cart: no way back.
:o Neo Geo CD? Tried to replace carts with CDs and pretty much failed.

Also, a good argument for carts is the handheld market. Would you have a Game Gear with a tape drive? :wink:

Re: What's best: Cartridge, CD-ROM...or cassette??

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:26 am
by RodimusPrime
thompson9980 wrote:
Spector wrote:I guess the same goes for the way CD-ROM replaced cart: no way back.
:o Neo Geo CD? Tried to replace carts with CDs and pretty much failed.

Also, a good argument for carts is the handheld market. Would you have a Game Gear with a tape drive? :wink:

Thats true, CDs never actually replaced carts. There was only really one successfull CD system and that was the PS1. Saturn struggled. Sega-CD bombed, 3DO failed, as did the CD-I.

Re: What's best: Cartridge, CD-ROM...or cassette??

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:32 am
by Matt_B
RodimusPrime wrote:
thompson9980 wrote:
Spector wrote:I guess the same goes for the way CD-ROM replaced cart: no way back.
:o Neo Geo CD? Tried to replace carts with CDs and pretty much failed.

Also, a good argument for carts is the handheld market. Would you have a Game Gear with a tape drive? :wink:

Thats true, CDs never actually replaced carts. There was only really one successfull CD system and that was the PS1. Saturn struggled. Sega-CD bombed, 3DO failed, as did the CD-I.
PCs used CD-ROMs for a while, arguably for much of the platform's golden era.

Still, if you're going to lump all carts from 70s ROM chips to today's NAND flash into a single category, I think you can do the same with optical media. And there have been a lot of successful DVD and Blu Ray based consoles. Even the PSP used optical media, although that was probably a mistake in hindsight.

Re: What's best: Cartridge, CD-ROM...or cassette??

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:34 am
by Sephiroth81
RodimusPrime wrote:
thompson9980 wrote:
Spector wrote:I guess the same goes for the way CD-ROM replaced cart: no way back.
:o Neo Geo CD? Tried to replace carts with CDs and pretty much failed.

Also, a good argument for carts is the handheld market. Would you have a Game Gear with a tape drive? :wink:

Thats true, CDs never actually replaced carts. There was only really one successfull CD system and that was the PS1. Saturn struggled. Sega-CD bombed, 3DO failed, as did the CD-I.
Carts are long dead. I think the OP probably mean't optical discs rather than "CD-ROM". Optical discs replaced cartridges as the main medium for home consoles from the PS1 era. The next gen entirely dropped them after Ninty's mistake with the N64.

Re: What's best: Cartridge, CD-ROM...or cassette??

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:58 am
by Spector
What sephiroth said. The "CDs didn't replace carts" post was I suppose technically right, but so literal.

Re: What's best: Cartridge, CD-ROM...or cassette??

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:04 am
by Matt_B
thompson9980 wrote:
Spector wrote:I guess the same goes for the way CD-ROM replaced cart: no way back.
:o Neo Geo CD? Tried to replace carts with CDs and pretty much failed.

Also, a good argument for carts is the handheld market. Would you have a Game Gear with a tape drive? :wink:
Actually, it could be rather neat if you could load games via a Walkman. It might take a little while for some of those 4MB cartridges though.

Re: What's best: Cartridge, CD-ROM...or cassette??

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:13 am
by Spector
Matt_B wrote:
Actually, it could be rather neat if you could load games via a Walkman. It might take a little while for some of those 4MB cartridges though.
You could use dictaphone tapes that go in the back of the gameboy where the cart slot is. Sounds like an idea from the head of Sir Clive!

Re: What's best: Cartridge, CD-ROM...or cassette??

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:14 am
by thompson9980
Matt_B wrote:
thompson9980 wrote:
Spector wrote:I guess the same goes for the way CD-ROM replaced cart: no way back.
:o Neo Geo CD? Tried to replace carts with CDs and pretty much failed.

Also, a good argument for carts is the handheld market. Would you have a Game Gear with a tape drive? :wink:
Actually, it could be rather neat if you could load games via a Walkman. It might take a little while for some of those 4MB cartridges though.
I can't imagine the Game Gear batteries lasting that long!

Re: What's best: Cartridge, CD-ROM...or cassette??

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:26 pm
by stayAwhile
badley maintainted housing can bugger cassettes up with mold something that would wipe streight off a cd rom I have bought moldy games before not a nice sight

Re: What's best: Cartridge, CD-ROM...or cassette??

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:03 pm
by outdated_gamer
Matt_B wrote:
PCs used CD-ROMs for a while, arguably for much of the platform's golden era.
True, however PCs used to have HDDs way before consoles got them and the majority of PC gamers preferred installing the games on the HDDs to running them from the CDs (except for some FMV and music, if that). Infact the game medium is pretty much extinct these days on the PC, with the large majority of PC gamers preferring the "direct to drive" downloads via services like Stream and GOG.

Personally, I'm not that fond of not owning a physical copy of a game, that's also why I don't buy stuff of Steam or GOG and only buy 2nd hand copies if I do.

Re: What's best: Cartridge, CD-ROM...or cassette??

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:30 pm
by The Laird
Reading this thread today made me think of my own childhood. My first system was a Speccy and I loved it to bits, but the one thing I always hated about it was that the games took so long to load. When one of my best friends got a Master System I was so jealous of the instant loading, it was great. So I then decided that I really wanted a console for just that reason. Money was tight at the time in our household so we couldn't afford the SMS that I wanted so after some investigating we discovered the Atari 2600. It was only £40 and the games were considerably cheaper than the other consoles (this was 1989 BTW), it also had a great selection of games I remembered playing in the arcades on holiday growing up. So that Christmas I got one under the tree and before long my brother and I had over 50 games for it! We could pick up brand new games for less than a tenner and one of my local games stores sold second hand ones for a fiver, couldn't go wrong. The Spectrum stayed in the bedroom and still got a bit of play, but the 2600 under the big TV quickly became the system of choice for a while.

Re: What's best: Cartridge, CD-ROM...or cassette??

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:39 pm
by Antiriad2097
Wait 3-5 minutes for a late 80s Spectrum game to load, or play a VCS?

I'll wait if it's all the same. There's no comparison.

I suppose the VCS would be handy to play while you wait for the Speccy to load, but I wouldn't want one for a main gaming system after 1983.

Re: What's best: Cartridge, CD-ROM...or cassette??

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:42 pm
by nokgod
You could in fact play a console using cassette tapes. Ladies and gents i give you the APF M1000:

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Using this nifty little add on, it would play cassettes:

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:lol: awesome. Have the best of both worlds.....

Re: What's best: Cartridge, CD-ROM...or cassette??

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:48 pm
by The Laird
Or this ;)

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Just a bit better!

Re: What's best: Cartridge, CD-ROM...or cassette??

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:53 pm
by nokgod
pah! just a copycat.... :lol: