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Re: Tropes and sexism in gaming.

Post by The Laird » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:17 pm

clarance wrote: but won't entertain the idea of having rape-em-ups or Jimmy Savile style RPG's.
:shock: :shock: :shock:

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Re: Tropes and sexism in gaming.

Post by killbot » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:19 pm

ShadowNeku wrote:
Sixteen Plus wrote:Well a gay game will only appeal to gay people, it would only cover a niche market and therefore wouldn't be mainstream. There would also likely be an age-restriction as it deals with a more adult theme.
I'm not gay but i have no issue playing as a homosexual protagonist, provided their persona isn't defined by their sexual preference (such as the example Dprinny posted with the God Hand hugely exaggerated, camp villians). I'd love to see a big company like Konami get a AAA release on the market like that. I fear though that most of the market wouldn't be as open minded as i am and it would be too much of a risk. Still, there should definitely be a push for acceptance of it in games since its part of society and seems to be ever increasing in popularity with other forms of media.
Lots of straight people went to see Brokeback Mountain. Of course, most gamers aren't mature enough to be confronted by a gay character withut being freaked out.
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Re: Tropes and sexism in gaming.

Post by clarance » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:20 pm

killbot wrote:
ShadowNeku wrote:
Sixteen Plus wrote:Well a gay game will only appeal to gay people, it would only cover a niche market and therefore wouldn't be mainstream. There would also likely be an age-restriction as it deals with a more adult theme.
I'm not gay but i have no issue playing as a homosexual protagonist, provided their persona isn't defined by their sexual preference (such as the example Dprinny posted with the God Hand hugely exaggerated, camp villians). I'd love to see a big company like Konami get a AAA release on the market like that. I fear though that most of the market wouldn't be as open minded as i am and it would be too much of a risk. Still, there should definitely be a push for acceptance of it in games since its part of society and seems to be ever increasing in popularity with other forms of media.
Lots of straight people went to see Brokeback Mountain.
LOTS more didn't...
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Re: Tropes and sexism in gaming.

Post by clarance » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:23 pm

The Laird wrote:
clarance wrote: but won't entertain the idea of having rape-em-ups or Jimmy Savile style RPG's.
:shock: :shock: :shock:
That's not to say I would play them (maybe a Garry Glitter one...), but why is killing people in video games ok if the aforementioned is so shocking?
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Re: Tropes and sexism in gaming.

Post by HalcyonDaze00 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:23 pm

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r0jaws wrote:Why are sexual politics in Games so important? Does anyone believe that Mario rescuing the princess, or that Lara Croft has in some way warped the mind of the child playing those games.
Why is it important? Because videogames are now aspiring to be art. Usually badly written, trashy, lowbrow art but art nonetheless. The problem is, when it comes to collecting plaudits the industry wants everyone to see it as purveying artistically valuable products which are capable of affecting and touching people deeply. Yet when its being told to put its house in order over the despicable level of violence and sexism in its products it wants to use the excuse of 'these are just games, they don't affect anyone'. It's a double standard that the industry, and its fans, can't keep up forever. The fact that many male gamers appear to believe any woman who takes issue with this must be a man-hating lesbian only proves there's a problem. If that's the level on which this debate is being conducted then it's a pretty shameful state of affairs.
It seems very similar to the video games cause violence arguments.
Yes, in that the gaming community still refuses to engage in the debate in a mature way.
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Re: Tropes and sexism in gaming.

Post by will2097 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:24 pm

What I find amazing is that there $150,000 worth of interest in a contrived men and video game hating theory. What i wonder is, is there $150,000 worth of interest in other half-baked idea's? I have loads of them.

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Re: Tropes and sexism in gaming.

Post by r0jaws » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:24 pm

I never got round to watching that movie, but then I'm not keen on westerns.
Isn't there a Japanese genre concerned with extreme sexual violence?

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Re: Tropes and sexism in gaming.

Post by will2097 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:25 pm

The Laird wrote:
clarance wrote: but won't entertain the idea of having rape-em-ups or Jimmy Savile style RPG's.
:shock: :shock: :shock:
She totally missed the prostitute arrangement in GTA. I might go and point them out to her. See if i can make her cry. ;)

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Re: Tropes and sexism in gaming.

Post by The Laird » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:26 pm

clarance wrote:
The Laird wrote:
clarance wrote: but won't entertain the idea of having rape-em-ups or Jimmy Savile style RPG's.
:shock: :shock: :shock:
That's not to say I would play them (maybe a Garry Glitter one...), but why is killing people in video games ok if the aforementioned is so shocking?
So you are trying to tell me that killing people in a video game is just as bad as raping somebody or paedophilia?

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Re: Tropes and sexism in gaming.

Post by r0jaws » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:29 pm

Has anyone mentioned Hitler yet? :lol:

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Re: Tropes and sexism in gaming.

Post by clarance » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:30 pm

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So you are trying to tell me that killing people in a video game is just as bad as raping somebody or paedophilia?
You mean raping or fiddling in a video game? Then, um, go on, I'll take the bait, um... yes?
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Re: Tropes and sexism in gaming.

Post by clarance » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:32 pm

r0jaws wrote:Has anyone mentioned Hitler yet? :lol:
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Re: Tropes and sexism in gaming.

Post by The Laird » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:33 pm

Unreal

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Re: Tropes and sexism in gaming.

Post by Sel Feena » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:36 pm

What constitutes a 'gay game'? I can only imagine a game centred around a relationship, which actually sounds kind of interesting TBH. Representation, by including gay characters in games should be encouraged, but just as with TV I can imagine that this'll start off with outrageous stereotypes before settling into something that isn't massively insulting.
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Re: Tropes and sexism in gaming.

Post by DPrinny » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:40 pm

clarance wrote:
I still don't understand how we as a gaming society wont bat an eyelid whilst slaying hundreds in many violent sadistic and exotic ways, but won't entertain the idea of having rape-em-ups or Jimmy Savile style RPG's.
Ill take "Games from Japan that cause a s**t storm" for ten please Bob
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