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Cartoon pic "Kinect & Move"

Post by Eric » Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:58 pm

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Does Kinect & Move spell the end of the true gamer and the traditional video game?

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Re: Cartoon pic "Kinect & Move"

Post by sscott » Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:15 pm

No. No it doesn't.
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Re: Cartoon pic "Kinect & Move"

Post by Eric » Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:22 pm

sscott wrote:No. No it doesn't.
Do you think gamers will even try out "no controller" games or will they just disregard them outright?

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Re: Cartoon pic "Kinect & Move"

Post by C=Style » Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:28 pm

Kinect will fall flat on it's arse unless MS incorporate a motion controller to go with that fancy camera.

Move has a controller, many gamers I see adopting it for FPS if nothing else, though I do expect it to divide fans.
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Re: Cartoon pic "Kinect & Move"

Post by sscott » Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:31 pm

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sscott wrote:No. No it doesn't.
Do you think gamers will even try out "no controller" games or will they just disregard them outright?
It'll just run alongside traditional controllers. Many of the games for Kinect and Move that are coming out are not hardcore but there may be a few gems out there, Children of Eden for one. The cost of these add-ons will mean that many people won't own them so publisher will continue to have the traditional control method as an option anyway.
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Re: Cartoon pic "Kinect & Move"

Post by Eric » Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:41 pm

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Move`s wand with coloured ball stuck on top just looks awful but the Wii seems to have made it ok to wave your arms around in front of your tv - don`t see that transition happening on PS3/360 anytime soon.

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Yeah, around £130 for Kinect and has you say most games will be casual party type games. Does seem that the hardcore tradtional games are getting less and less these days.

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Re: Cartoon pic "Kinect & Move"

Post by DPrinny » Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:14 pm

Hardcore?
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Re: Cartoon pic "Kinect & Move"

Post by Fightersmegamix » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:04 am

It's just a fad, the best bits will be kept and the rest dropped in time. 3d is already the new motion control, these things come and go but there will always be a market for traditional videogames.

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Re: Cartoon pic "Kinect & Move"

Post by thevulture » Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:23 am

Sony seem to expect a slow inital uptake of Move, much like there was with the Eyetoy in contrast to MS seeming to annouce Kinnect as the 2nd coming.As an R.T.S fan curious to see how R.U.S.E fares on PS3, it has move support-If implemented well, could be far better than current pad control schemes for console R.T.S games.Similar with Heavy Rain patch could show the potential for good few genres.

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Re: Cartoon pic "Kinect & Move"

Post by thesubcon3 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:28 am

To answer your question, trying playing an emulator on the iPhone and tell me if touch or motion controls will replace anything. Look at the lineup of retro goodness that was on display at E3. Traditional games are going no where.

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Re: Cartoon pic "Kinect & Move"

Post by killbot » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:02 am

What I expect to see is all those Sony/MS fanboys who laughed at the Wii as a toy for grandparents and small kids to suddenly conclude that motion controls are actually a brilliant idea. Will they change the way people play games? Maybe. But then, arguably the Wii already has and the others are now simply playing catch-up.

Of the two, Kinect looks the most interesting. Move is clearly nothing more than a blatant copy of the Wii remote, while Kinect looks genuinely new. I fully expect it to be lumbered wth some horrible flaws (am I right in thinking that you can't play sitting down?) but when the revised version comes out to accompany the Xbox 720 then they may have something truly revolutionary. I fully expect that handheld controllers will still be part of the scene for a while yet though, even if they only accompany a Kinect-style system.
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Re: Cartoon pic "Kinect & Move"

Post by thevulture » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:58 am

:wink: Move is the PS Eyetoy trying to catch up with what the Wii has done and not be 'left behind' what Kinnect is trying to do.Kinnect is MS thinking, we need to get in and ahead of this game, so it copies what the eyetoy did and try`s to be more, then cost cutting measures come in, tech is scaled back etc etc.Of the 2? Move has no lag, but looks plain stupid, Kinnect ? had more potential, but Beta testers reporting lag IS an issue in some games (Removing onboard CPU may prove costly)Both, just experiments for the next gen.As for 3D? what is it? only 2% in UK intend to buy 3D TV-Hell good few yet to move to HD.

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Re: Cartoon pic "Kinect & Move"

Post by sscott » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:12 pm

The 3D thing will take ages to become standard at home I think as nearly everyone is FINALLY moving towards HD TVs. As people have said I think Kinect and Move are just a toe in the water for the next generation in a few years (maybe as this generations lifespan is set to be longer than most before it). Also strange that people forget the EyeToy was in there first, so to speak.
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Re: Cartoon pic "Kinect & Move"

Post by C=Style » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:42 pm

killbot wrote:What I expect to see is all those Sony/MS fanboys who laughed at the Wii as a toy for grandparents and small kids to suddenly conclude that motion controls are actually a brilliant idea. Will they change the way people play games? Maybe. But then, arguably the Wii already has and the others are now simply playing catch-up.

Of the two, Kinect looks the most interesting. Move is clearly nothing more than a blatant copy of the Wii remote, while Kinect looks genuinely new. I fully expect it to be lumbered wth some horrible flaws (am I right in thinking that you can't play sitting down?) but when the revised version comes out to accompany the Xbox 720 then they may have something truly revolutionary. I fully expect that handheld controllers will still be part of the scene for a while yet though, even if they only accompany a Kinect-style system.
Spot on and it's already happening mate. Boy have they changed their tune ;) Not only that but on a few forums that I visit I've been told from certain individuals/cretins that Sony isn't copying Nintendo with Move, allegedly Sony where the pioneers and Nintendo stole the tech from them and rushed it out to the market hahaha. Also allegedly the Move tech is soooo much more accurate (dunno how you can get more accurate than 1:1! but there we go) and it certainly didn't look that way at the E3 showing lol. Some Sony fans are saying how the WIi will now die a death as the Move is in HD, it's more adult orientated and will offer a better overall experience.

There's just ONE little thing they seem to forget.....the actual games. Nothing that Sony put out will rival what Nintendo have achieved with the wiimote & nunchuk in terms of gameplay, they'll try, they'll emulate and rip everything off but ultimately Nintendo will still be the place for motion gaming.

The only thing I see that Sony will have an advantage in is FPS, as some pretty big names have signed up for Move support, so that's probably a good thing. But yes, tunes will certainly change.
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Re: Cartoon pic "Kinect & Move"

Post by thevulture » Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:09 pm

Sony (for all thier faults) Seem to come up with some crackin pieces of kit, stacks of potential (PSP, Eye Toy etc) and then seem unsure how best to make a go of it, Took ages for PS3 to hit it`s stride, PSP:left to flounder, Eye Toy-Some party stuff on PS2, relaunched again so to speak on PS3, had all of what? eye of judgement? Now Move is coming, 3D being tested, but they really seem unsure how to best proceed with any of it.Kinnect really is what PS3 Eye toy should have been, but they`ve let MS march in an steal the hype crown here.Most bizzare set of actions.again, with Handheld-PSP 2 is going to be playing catch up with 3DS, iphone etc.

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