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xbox (original, not 360) VGA cable / convertor box

Post by neuromancer » Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:23 am

Hi,

Can anybody recommend a vga cable or convertor box to connect original Xbox (not 360) consoles to PC lcd monitors (or lcd / plasma tv) via VGA?

I trawled the forum using the standard search and came up empty; using Google I found a lot of hits for vga-dreamcast, but can't find Xbox information (last year the forum came up trumps for my similar request for a Dreamcast vga solution).

I'm currently desperately hoping my Sony Vega 28" CRT can be repaired as it went pop last week - but I've been after a vga cable for some time knowing the crt era is ending...

Thanks in advance

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Post by Lentini2001 » Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:39 am

I dont ever recall seeing one.

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Post by C=Style » Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:49 am

What you are looking for is a device called the Neoya X2VGA+. It's exactly what you are after, the thing is the company that made them stopped producing them which was a shame and the demand sky rocketed so they are quite expensive now I think, or they were last time I checked.

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I was lucky enough to pick one up about 5 years ago. I have to say, hooking up the Xbox via VGA to a PC monitor is the ultimate way to play Xbox 1 games, all games in native 480p look really amazing, especially games like Dead Or Alive Ultimate which look like it belongs in this gen.
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Post by neuromancer » Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:28 am

Hi,

Thanks for the swift replies guys. The Neoya looks excellent C=Style, but as you say they aren't in production and it's going to be hard to get hold of one.

Does anyone know of good-quality alteratives?

So far I've found a couple of different units on eBay, but haven't really looked into them (I prefer to trust the RG forum experts for information from the sharp end)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Adapter-PS2-XBOX- ... 3f010f4237

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/YPbPr-VGA-HDTV-Co ... 3efde31343

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Post by neuromancer » Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:53 am

Hi,

After some more digging it seems that this is far harder than it ought to be - Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom, effectively crippled the Xbox and removed vga output, forcing the use of transcoders or full blown video reprocessors.

A thread on another forum has tons of detail:

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126582

Two other threads seem to imply that even the X2VGA may not work with all xbox revisions - there are suggestions that it doesn't work with 1.6 variants with the Xcalibur chipset; I don't know if this is accurate:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=uk

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=30938

Again, any solid experience anyone has on how to do on the xbox what is so simple on the Dreamcast?

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Post by C=Style » Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:57 am

From what I remember when I was in your situation a few years ago the only option for true results is the X2VGA+, all the other VGA upscalers won't give you anything like the same results from what I'm aware as the X2VGA+ was built specifically for Xbox to convert it's 480p/720p/1080i video signals for use on monitors.

But from thinking a bit more about it, I'm quite sure there was a snag (as always!) in that you needed to have HD output enabled on your XBox, meaning either a NTSC or modded unit. Without that you might as well get a cheaper VGA kit but it will only be upscaling 480i so expect some rough and ready results.
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Post by C=Style » Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:59 am

X2VGA does not work with 1.6 Xbox's you're quite right, but the X2VGA+ does. I've used X2VGA+ on both 1.2 and 1.6 (which contain both different GPU's) and had no problems.
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Post by fordie020376 » Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:54 pm

If all else fails then you might have to do what I do with my xbox's.

Run 'em direct through your hd lcd tv with component cables. It look amazing :)
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Post by neuromancer » Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:01 pm

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

Currently I don't even have an HD TV, just various pc monitors. I'm actively trying to avoid getting a plasma or LCD tv as a) they can't compare to CRT for SD inputs, and b) the sound quality sucks due to the small speaker dimensions (fingers crossed by Vega can be repaired), but do want to future-proof my console collection a bit...

I'm reading good things about a device called HD Box Pro - does anyone have experience of these (takes component video input and outputs vga)?

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=20122

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183663

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Post by neuromancer » Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:06 pm

C=Style wrote:But from thinking a bit more about it, I'm quite sure there was a snag (as always!) in that you needed to have HD output enabled on your XBox, meaning either a NTSC or modded unit
Thanks for mentioning this - luckily my xboxes are modded so no problems on this front - can't find anyone selling an x2vga+ for love nor money though...

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Post by Antiriad2097 » Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:29 pm

As a makeshift fix, any cheap VGA TV adapter will do the job. Won't give the best output, but it'll be playable on the monitor at least.
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Post by IronMaidenRule » Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:23 am

I brought one of these mainly for playing PS2 and Wii on my PC Monitor:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gadmei-Ultra-XGA- ... 201wt_1137

I works fantastically well with a Wii, the PS2 looks a bit washed out and the RF connection has also worked well with the SNES, unfortunately both the MD & Dreamcast were appallingly bad!

In short I was disappointed, and by most feedback nearly all VGA boxes never really work right, my advice is to save up a bit more and get a nice TV with all the connections!

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Post by neuromancer » Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:51 am

IronMaidenRule wrote:I brought one of these mainly for playing PS2 and Wii on my PC Monitor:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gadmei-Ultra-XGA- ... 201wt_1137

I works fantastically well with a Wii, the PS2 looks a bit washed out and the RF connection has also worked well with the SNES, unfortunately both the MD & Dreamcast were appallingly bad!

In short I was disappointed, and by most feedback nearly all VGA boxes never really work right, my advice is to save up a bit more and get a nice TV with all the connections!
Thanks for the info IronMaidenRule (great forum name too). It's as useful to have warnings about units that don't work as to have recommendations for ones which do - there's so many devices available.

I think I'll have to find an RGB-scart to VGA convertor too at some point. But there again, how long before vga goes the way of the serial port?

I can imagine having great daisy-chains of connectors, going from scart to vga to hdmi (to whatever comes next)...

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