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Post by Magic Knight » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:46 pm

Sega2006 wrote:your a dumb fanboy, Im suprised you know how to use a computer let alone knew how to use a forum. Give the boy a pat on the head and a biscuit
Are you old enough to remember the Saturn first hand? From the tone of your posts I would say you're about 12.

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Post by Utini » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:51 pm

Sega2006 wrote:I'd rather have the Saturn over the PS1 any Day. The PS1 was slower and did less than the Saturn, and If I wanted to save somthing I had to go out and spend the little money I had on memory cards, where as the Saturn didnt need them whilst the Lithium Battery had power in it. The pads were easyier to hold and had the feel of Arcade stick functions, they did great with Street fighter Alpha. So what if the Saturn was harder to programme and had a sh1te advertising scheme, It still out performed the PS1 in more aspects than the PS1 outpowered the Saturn. I will take my Saturn and place in pride of place and Drop kick that gray turd of a PS1 out of the window to forever be forgotten :twisted:
What hasn't been mentioned is that Sega really dropped the ball in the 32x-Saturn era, so much so that they gave away their position, irrecovably, to Sony.

On paper the Saturn may have looked more impressive than the PS1, but the very fact that developers found it tricky to work with meant that it would never achieve its full potential. Many have also commented that the Saturn was essentially a 2D machine, competing in a 3D marketplace.

Sony, on the otherhand, came into the market with a machine developers liked to work with, which is attested to by the huge software catalogue the PS1 has. And as a new comer to the home console sector, did a sterling job at changing the rules of the game.

As a Master System, then a Mega Drive (and Mega-CD) owner, I really wanted to like the Saturn - but then in 1995 I saw the PlayStation and bought that instead of suffering from another bad hardware move from Sega.

Since then, I have bought a Saturn from eBay for my collection, but I still stand by my decision in 1995. The Saturn is a good machine, let's make no bones about it, but it simply didn't have the software support essential to survival in the competetive games industry: the hardware I could care less about, "It's all about the games!"
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Post by StarEye » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:09 pm

Also, SEGA priced itself out of the market. It cost a staggering £100 more than the Playstation. The Playstation was fairly cheap, great amount of software (everyone was developing for it), and not to mention an award winning controller that basically worked for every genre out there. The Saturn controller was basically a Megadrive/Genesis pad with shoulderbuttons.

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Post by SirClive » Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:31 am

Sega2006 wrote:your a dumb fanboy
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Post by Shin_Gouki » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:53 am

SirClive wrote:
Sega2006 wrote:your a dumb fanboy
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Post by davrho » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:02 pm

I thought the ps2 was a load of crap. Still have it in the loft. Never played it since the x-box came out. I have the 360 and yes i agree the games are slow to come out but i would rather wait for quality games than an explosion of duff titles. I am not in the microsofoft good sony rubbish club. The ps1 was a good machine. I will purchase the wii and the ps3 when they come out.
I am probably wrong to slate the ps2 but it did not do for me. There is not really a games console i could say was a waste of money. Pro ev6 comes out on fri and costs 80 euro. The lads are comin round for a bevvy and a late night competition. I live just outside dublin and a night out can cost 140 euro. The 360 and games will pay for themselves

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Post by Frank Chickens » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:44 pm

Easily the Dreamcast.

It had it all - on-line capability, a variety of accesories, great games and available for a decent price. Then Sega's world-renown marketing department stepped in and ensured that it would be unknown to most people - sponsoring the Arsenal football team was an act sheer stupidity and a waste of money which would of been better spent in the specialised press.

Bringing it out inbetween two generations didn't help since people would rather wait a bit longer for Sony's latest effort than get burned by Sega again.
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Post by tcv » Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:42 pm

I've always been a fan a portablility, so the only systems that disappointed me were ones that were supposed to bring portability to the "next level."

1. Game.com

2. TurboExpress (Really just a TG-16 hooked up to a smaller television. Great execution, bad battery and not all that important at the end of it all.)

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Post by sleeper77 » Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:49 am

Gameboy Advance - for what it was worth I should have kept my original Gameboy. You need a 1000w lightbulb to play the Gameboy Advance games.
I was definitely not buying a Gameboy Advance SP because for me it was pointless as I hardly bought any GBA games and only liked the old Gameboy games I still had.

Sega Saturn - I remember choosing between a Saturn & Playstation in early 97. The Playstation came with no games bundle but the Saturn came with Sega Rally. What did I buy? The Saturn. I felt really let down as later on I saw all the better games released on the Playstation, which I bought the following year after selling the Saturn. I was gutted by the Saturn version of Doom. It played less than half the speed of the PC version I drooled on back then. Even the magazines were critical of how badly it had been programmed. The only games I would go back and play on this would be Sega Rally, Manx TT, Virtua Cop with light gun and Mortal Kombat. I used to play Sega Worldwide Soccer a lot but looking at it now it has aged terribly. One of the buttons on the controller broke after three months. Nothing against Sega & Nintendo of course. The Saturn though is the only retro machine I would buy again because of its poor games catalogue.

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Post by P-Head » Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:46 am

Frank Chickens wrote:- sponsoring the Arsenal football team was an act sheer stupidity and a waste of money which would of been better spent in the specialised press.
Yeah, I remember thinking "WTF is up with that?" when I first saw it. Not the cleverest move. In somewhat related news my local gamestation is selling a dreamcast for £25, and a nes for £35. I don't see the logic myself

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Post by devilman » Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:52 am

sleeper77 wrote:The Saturn though is the only retro machine I would buy again because of its poor games catalogue.
Do you mean 'wouldn't'? True enough that the Pal Saturn games weren't that great but there's plenty of good Japanese stuff to warrant one.
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Post by GetDexter » Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:41 am

For me, definitely the old 'Orange' Binatone system. On the box it said 'Football' with a picture of Kevin Keegan kicking the ball at 100mph into the back of the net. When I actually played it I was confronted with a white bat on one side of the screen, another white bat in the middle and a 'goal' at the other end. The ball was a square and there was no grass to speak of...
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Post by The Penultimate Ninja » Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:33 am

Purely from a hardware/asthetic point of view: the original GBA and the original DS. The games were fine, it was just the hardware that disapointed me.

The GBA was ugly and virtually unusable, with a screen you couldn't see unless beneath a bright light, plus it was prone to scratching. The DS was just ugly and bulky.

Both had vastly better re-designed versions released about a year after launch which were so much better, and really p!ssed off the people who had bought the old ones. If they were capable of producing the SP and DS Lite, why did they release such abominations first?

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Post by devilman » Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:39 am

I'd hardly call the original DS an abomination. Especially when there's the likes of the R-Zone about.
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Post by Antiriad2097 » Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:07 pm

I much prefer (and still use) my original GBA to the SP. The only downside is the slightly darker screen, but I've rarely ever had any problems with it. Sure, it'd be nice to be a bit brighter, but its perfectly usable. Reports of how bad it is are much exaggerated.

Hell, even the PSP has screen problems - its pretty much unusable in daylight, it just washes out, and thats one of the best portable screens out there.
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