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Gamestation ain't so bad

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:41 am
by retros_the_way
Hi everyone,

I'm new here but have been reading threads for a while.

Just wanted to let you know I just got what I think was a really good deal in Gamestation.

4 Mega Drive games

Sonic
Sonic 2
Road Rash II
Dino Dini's soccer

96p! :D - although I did have a £3 credit note. So £3.96 really as they were buy one get one free.

I think I'll go back up there this afternoon for some more...

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:04 am
by paranoid marvin
It's incredible,isnt it?
When they first came out,they would have cost you £150 or so,
now you've got change for chips from a fiver!

Retro gaming's great 8)

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:25 am
by retros_the_way
I know, its fantastic. I think I might pay them another visit cause I spotted andre agassis tennis and with buy one get one free who knows what I might get! :)

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:09 am
by preownedgames.co.uk
I still get the odd bargain from gamestation but I mainly see the same stuff over and over again.

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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:24 am
by paranoid marvin
preownedgames.co.uk wrote:I still get the odd bargain from gamestation but I mainly see the same stuff over and over again.
but if you've never played it before, it's all new to you isn't it?

Plus most of the games are better than a lot of the dross released today

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:20 am
by retros_the_way
I convinced myself that better graphics must mean better games so like a sheep I buy playstation 2 followed by gamecube followed by xbox followed by xbox360.

Then realise that the only games I like where one the consoles I played as as kid so sell the playstation, sell the gamecube, sell the xbox, sell the 360 - dig the megadrive out of the loft and plug in Fifa 95/ PGA Tour/ Pit Fighter and all of a sudden I was having more fun than I ever had on expensive current gen consoles.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the GTA series but it is just not the same.

Who needs L1 R1 L2 R2 Z buttons, C-Stick etc when ABC and a D-pad kick ass!

Graphics cannot beat gameplay, no chance.

I'm ranting now...I think I've made my point.

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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:25 am
by psj3809
retros_the_way wrote:Graphics cannot beat gameplay, no chance.

I'm ranting now...I think I've made my point.
100% agree with you !

I love the older games as the gameplay to me was better, no 200 page manuals to read first, no 48 key combinations you have to learn, dont have to sit there for 4 hours to complete one mission.

The games of yesteryear you can have a quick blast on, theyre a variety of great simple ideas. The graphics/sound wont be as good but like you say the gameplays still there.

Look at Commando or Bombjack (two of my faves). Commandos a simple shooting game, up/down/left/right/fire/grenade and thats it. Just go vertical and kill everyone !

Bombjack is a very simple game, sooooooooo playable on MAME (and speccy)

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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:31 am
by retros_the_way
psj3809 wrote:
retros_the_way wrote:Graphics cannot beat gameplay, no chance.

I'm ranting now...I think I've made my point.
Look at Commando or Bombjack (two of my faves). Commandos a simple shooting game, up/down/left/right/fire/grenade and thats it. Just go vertical and kill everyone !

Bombjack is a very simple game, sooooooooo playable on MAME (and speccy)
I remember Commando on my Spectrum 128k +2 - I still have it in my loft somewhere. I loved that game apart from always getting killed before getting out of the first screen through the gap in the wall (is my memory correct?)

Your right, to be able to put a cart in the mega drive and in seconds be playing is brilliant.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:38 am
by paranoid marvin
Virtua Tennis is the best current gen tennis game

Super Tennis on SNES beats it hands down

PGR2 is arguably the best racing game on current hardware

Give me the original Outrun any day

Tiger Woods is the best curent golf game

Leaderboard is a far more playable game

Pro Evo Soccer is the most popular footbal game

SWOS was a far superior game

Even on PC, no current RPGS with their flashy graphics and complicated gameplay can match their old counterparts(Baldurs Gate 1+2 , Fallout 1+2 etc)

and don't even get me started on graphic adventures Sleeping Dragon 3 compared to the likes of DOTT or Monkey Island 1+2 - there's just no contest

Why is it that most programmers can't come close to matching software
that was produced 5,10, even 15-20 years ago?

Is it because they think that putting a licence on it is enough,or that fancy graphics and sound is enough?

Is it because they aren't aware of the quality of games that went before?

Or is it all down to the suits not caring what the game plays like , as long as it sells?

Now don't get me wrong,there have always been corporations who put profit in front of the quality of there product-but there were always enough other software houses out there to make it a fair balance

The worring thing is that with Sony and Microsoft and EA getting bigger
we may see a future were there is no room for anyone else

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:29 am
by merman
I have to disagree with you on Pro Evo, SWOS is great fun but Pro Evo has so much depth and such great controls. When you learn them, it becomes natural and easy to play.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:55 am
by paranoid marvin
Pro Evo has too many controls.
All you should need is a joystick and a fire button (possibly 2)
Nothing more

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:05 am
by retros_the_way
Just an update

I have just purchased Speedball 2 for mega drive on ebay - never played this originally but heard it was good.

:?:

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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:08 am
by The Last Ginja
merman wrote:I have to disagree with you on Pro Evo, SWOS is great fun but Pro Evo has so much depth and such great controls. When you learn them, it becomes natural and easy to play.


I have to agree with Merman, once you learn the more complex controls, the game becomes a sublime test of skill. The difference between using a pass to feet or a lofted through ball is the difference between scoring or not. My friends and I are all at a similar skill level and we get together every Wednesday night and play 2 versus 2, it really doesn't get much better.

That said we do still love a game of Sensi.

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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:12 am
by paranoid marvin
The Last Ginja wrote:
merman wrote:I have to disagree with you on Pro Evo, SWOS is great fun but Pro Evo has so much depth and such great controls. When you learn them, it becomes natural and easy to play.


I have to agree with Merman, once you learn the more complex controls, the game becomes a sublime test of skill. The difference between using a pass to feet or a lofted through ball is the difference between scoring or not. My friends and I are all at a similar skill level and we get together every Wednesday night and play 2 versus 2, it really doesn't get much better.

That said we do still love a game of Sensi.

so you're still playing Sensi 10 years on-do you think you'll still be playing that version of Pro Evo in 2016?

Kick off 2 , Emlyn Hughes Soccer and Sensi all had a range of passing moves -all using 1 joystick and 1 fire button.I think there are too many games today that use extra buttons simply because they are there

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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:13 am
by Antiriad2097
psj3809 wrote:I love the older games as the gameplay to me was better, no 200 page manuals to read first, no 48 key combinations you have to learn, dont have to sit there for 4 hours to complete one mission.
I take it you've never played Gunship on a C64 loaded from cassette then.
Huge manual, masses of keys and it takes about half an hour just to get to the mission start. Great game :twisted:

Oh, and I may be a minority but I prefer Speedball 1. I like the narrower single screen width pitch better.