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Post by Antiriad2097 » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:57 am

I don't think it matters if pinball machines were the dominant game of the arcade pre-video, or whether they funded game development. The issue (for me) revolves around the actual game. Its not a videogame. Not even those that have (imho very poor) video elements. Its pinball.

RG is (again imho) a videogame magazine.

I firmly believe however that if we're to make space for the odd (mechanical) pinball article, we should also include other 'related' games. We've had one on mechanical shooting galleries, now give us all the other games.
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Post by psj3809 » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:21 am

I'm not anti-pinball, i used to play on pinball machines tons when i was younger and theyre still great if theres one in a pub or something.

Just in Retro Gamer i personally dont want to see articles about pinball machines in Retro Gamer. Retro fusion used to have a mix of old skool TV and similar articles and yeah it would have been ideal for that. Retro Gamer had i think in one issue an A-Z (the start of) of retro stuff and that didnt pan out.

If theres a Pachinko game on MAME or the Neo Geo then perhaps show that at some stage, any pinball games on any computer/console then show those. But the actual machines themselves i dont want to see. If something can be emulated or played ona computer/console then yes.

I dont care if pinball machines funded video games. I'm not anti-pinball but i dont want articles in Retro Gamer. I want articles on computer or console games or arcade games. Slating the people who dont want to see these articles is funny, again i've played a lot of pinball games for years, i've enjoyed playing them and still do but i dont want articles in the mag. What next ? We should have articles on Warhammer the board game or other Dungeons and Dragons board games as its a type of retro game ?

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Post by FatTrucker » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:54 am

Right, you can all have your dummy's back but I'm keeping the Tonka Truck and this action man. :roll:
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Post by Elgin_McQueen » Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:28 am

Kinda hard to argue about the fact that we have had board games. Sure, they were video game related board games. But they mostly didn't even have moving parts. :shock:
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Post by Bub&Bob » Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:10 am

The Master wrote:No, by the fact that, whether you like it or not, there is a Pinball feature in issue 45!
Hopefully, there will be ads (or failing that, some CPC stuff) on the back of this article so I can just rip it out :wink:
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Post by Rev. Stuart Campbell » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:24 am

So hang on - something like Gottlieb Pinball Classics - which emulates real-life pinballs as closely as possible - IS a videogame, but the real machine (which in gameplay terms is absolutely exactly the same) ISN'T? Hmm, interesting taxonomy, there.

Anyway, the feature is both relevant and excellent, so shut up everyone.

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Post by Bub&Bob » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:46 am

Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote:Anyway, the feature is both relevant and excellent, so shut up everyone.
Or what?
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Post by Rev. Stuart Campbell » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:06 am

Or there'll be trouble.

(Where "trouble" is defined as "a 46-page retrospective on 3D Deathchase".)

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Post by Antiriad2097 » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:12 am

Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote:Gottlieb Pinball Classics - which emulates real-life pinballs as closely as possible - IS a videogame, but the real machine (which in gameplay terms is absolutely exactly the same) ISN'T?
See. Even the Rev. agrees with us :twisted:
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Post by Bub&Bob » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:50 am

Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote:Or there'll be trouble.

(Where "trouble" is defined as "a 46-page retrospective on 3D Deathchase".)
In that case, im all for an article on pinball :wink:
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Post by SirClive » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:59 am

I think you should stretch the 3D Deathchase out to fill the whole issue :D
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Post by Dudley » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:30 am

Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote:So hang on - something like Gottlieb Pinball Classics - which emulates real-life pinballs as closely as possible - IS a videogame, but the real machine (which in gameplay terms is absolutely exactly the same) ISN'T? Hmm, interesting taxonomy, there.
No more so than Forza is a video game but driving a car isn't.
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Post by Rev. Stuart Campbell » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:18 am

Dudley wrote:
Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote:So hang on - something like Gottlieb Pinball Classics - which emulates real-life pinballs as closely as possible - IS a videogame, but the real machine (which in gameplay terms is absolutely exactly the same) ISN'T? Hmm, interesting taxonomy, there.
No more so than Forza is a video game but driving a car isn't.
Forza is as much like driving a real car as it is like water-skiing.

Incidentally, when did you last hear of anyone dying in a tragic pinball accident?

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Post by Antiriad2097 » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:29 am

Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote:
Dudley wrote:
Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote:So hang on - something like Gottlieb Pinball Classics - which emulates real-life pinballs as closely as possible - IS a videogame, but the real machine (which in gameplay terms is absolutely exactly the same) ISN'T? Hmm, interesting taxonomy, there.
No more so than Forza is a video game but driving a car isn't.
Forza is as much like driving a real car as it is like water-skiing.

Incidentally, when did you last hear of anyone dying in a tragic pinball accident?
When's the last time you heard of anyone slapping the side of a videogame to influence play?
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Post by Rev. Stuart Campbell » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:36 am

When did you last hear of a pinball videogame that didn't have a "tilt" function?

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