Opa-Opa wrote:kiwimike wrote:
Well Said, and completely agree with you. Simon is relevant to the mag-Not saying it is any more relevant than other tabletops like Astro Wars (who deserve coverage as well),but to dis it as not part of what the Mag is about- Retro Games- Is quite snobby IMO. I loved the old Simon, have good nostalgic memories of it
Oh well, in that case I had an old Pacman lunch box and my friend had a Mario one (his one had a flask too)..
Perhaps we can have a making of feature of those, after all they are clearly connected to video games and have other things in common with the great consoles of the time such as they were both made on a production line, both made of plastic.. The List goes on..
If I wanted to read about toys I'd by a magazine that featured toys, I want a magazine about Video Games which is why I subscribe to Retro Gamer..
I'd love to see arcticles regarding the proper table top games as others have mentioned, yes it might be hard reseaching the facts and trying to find out as much info as you can regarding them, but thats what we buy the magazine for, thats what would make the article worth reading, but if you can't be bothered because it might be a "bit hard" hunting down the people involved there are still plenty of other real video games we could read about..

A little O.T.T really, I don't know how you make the leap from a classic tabletop electronic game to lunch box, but opinions are never right or wrong, they're just opinions...

I find it hard to accept though that you see no place for Simon as a mere 'toy', but are happy for other tabletop games of the era to be in the mag, as they are 'Proper' games? Brings me back to the snobbism point IMO.
I think I read earlier through the topics someone comparing it to guitar hero, and knocking those too. But-Like it or not those guitar games, incredibly popular, in a few years will be retro games themselves. They will deserve a place in a Retrogamer mag in 2020! As will the dance/rythm games...and so on.
So what is it about Simon that does not justify it's place in the mag? Is it the tabletop game aspect (although others are happy with 'Proper' tabletops in there!), is it the limited gameplay (In which case laserdisc games like Dragons Lair and Mad Dog can get ****ed too?!

). Is it the aspect of no screen/visuals in the videogame sense? In which case I'll wind everyone up by calling for Computer Battleship to make an appearance!
Sorry. I'm simply being Devils advocate here. I respect the views that many didn't like the feature, I personally really enjoyed it- And the fact is that all these tabletop games, handhelds, LCD/LEDs etc from this era were TOYs! All of them! And to me Simon deserves it's place in the mag just as much as the others of the era.