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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:56 pm
by markopoloman
paranoid marvin wrote:
markopoloman wrote:Well, I am an active forum member over at TPCG..........

clicky link to the 14page thread.......................


http://www.totalpcgaming.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=593


They are taking a massive amount of flack over there!
thanks , just had a browse. Although the main issue appears to be with the price rise , not the decrease in content ; perhaps people havent read/got to the back pages yet?
Well, I get retro Gamer - so reduced content on retro stuff is not an issue for me, and it came as no surprise that it changed (I actually knew it was going to happen :roll: :wink: ).
The main issue with the issue for most of the flack being given is the price rise of £1.50 and the 'free' gifts that are not free and the advertising AND plastic bag containing the mag stating 5 gifts - when there are only 2.

Still, I subscribe to the mag, it's still cheaper than the others and is a bloody good read.

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:56 pm
by OriginalJax
These 'freebies' are even worse for folks who are overseas.

As a general rule, magazines with a cover-disc cost me around $22 now - more than twice the UK price!

And I mean what use is a CD/DVD when you need to make one of those longer trips to the bathroom?

Bah!

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:14 pm
by jdanddiet
Surely most of the stuff they could/would put on the disc would be downloadable anyway these days of cheapo to buy...no def not worth it...if anyone from RG is reading this, my vote is NO for cover discs.

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:06 pm
by GenghisJones
things have come full circle - in the early day's of the 'new' IP Retrogamer people were always asking for the discs to come back - personally I like RG just as it is.

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:47 pm
by Dudley
GenghisJones wrote:things have come full circle - in the early day's of the 'new' IP Retrogamer people were always asking for the discs to come back - personally I like RG just as it is.
Not entirely true, a few people moaned on the forum, then got crushed as soon as a poll got set up.

TPCG's problem is simple. There are 2 things that could differentiate them from the competition. Their price due to no silly things taped to the front and their content.

Well they just ruined the first one and casual browsers no longer get to make a judgement on the second one because it's in a bag and they can't browse it pre-purchase.

Bravo.

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:08 pm
by CraigGrannell
Dudley wrote:Unless this also happens to TPCG expect them to be forcing a crappy disk and a rise to £6.49 on Darran any time now.
I'll be surprised and extremely disappointed if this happens. (EDIT: And, for what it's worth, I've certainly not been told anything to suggest that this will happen.) I suspect the reason the changes have happened to TPCG is because it wasn't selling enough, and so this is a means of trying to boost the circulation. Apparently, bagging mags does tend to up sales, as does offering free crap (sadly).

Retro Gamer, however, is an oddity, because there is no competition. The only time a retro mag had a covermount was when the Live Retro Gamer had one, and with the exception of subsequent homebrew, I think the content for retro covermounts was pretty much exhausted by Live.

Also, Retro Gamer is at a higher price-point than the Imagine mags that have had price-hikes anyway.

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:21 pm
by Ash
I'm always telling Darran that he should do a covertape. One day he'll listen!

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:07 pm
by The Master
I'd happily pay double for RG if I had to. Obviously I'd prefer not, but come on, this is one of a kind.

I'd want my picture in it every month, though.

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:22 pm
by paranoid marvin
For me , it's never been price & never will be. No doubt if it cost me a tenner , I'd still buy it

It's always been about the CONTENT. Quality articles written by knowledgeable writers and edited by an editor for a love for the subject is what I want from a mag.

The reason why I will no longer subscribe to TPCG has nothing to do with the price , or the fact that they are taking us for mugs with their offer of 'free' gifts (couldn't they even have the decency to wait a month or 2 before raising the price?) - it's because the retro content has been reduced to such a state that they might as well not bother in the future (so sad when you consider the quality of the retro section previously). Ok it wasn't a rival for RG , but it was certainly complemented it well

Think I'll go back to the PCZ/RG combination of mags once my subscription expires

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:23 pm
by CraigGrannell
Ash wrote:I'm always telling Darran that he should do a covertape. One day he'll listen!
Quiet, you.

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:26 pm
by CraigGrannell
paranoid marvin wrote:it's because the retro content has been reduced to such a state that they might as well not bother in the future (so sad when you consider the quality of the retro section previously). Ok it wasn't a rival for RG , but it was certainly complemented it well
Well, I really enjoyed my stint on the mag, because it enabled me to write retro content in a very different way to Retro Gamer. (Note, for example, the very clear difference between my two Cannon Fodder pieces.) I guess, though, that the typical PC gamer just isn't that interested in retro—if they were, and if loads of people were writing in saying "love that redux section"—they wouldn't have so thoroughly knifed it.

That all said, I'll be surprised if it's permanently a reprint column, not least because they'll pretty soon run out of Retro Gamer content to repurpose anyway.

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:16 am
by Dudley
I dunno, they could rip apart articles about almost everything if it had a PC version, wouldn't require much changing.

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:34 am
by Antiriad2097
Or more likely, add an emulation box out - any article could be used then.

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:42 am
by CraigGrannell
Well, sure, but at that point they may as well drop redux entirely. I know prior to the revamp, the in-house team's only interest was in retro PC titles, apart from the emulation DPS, which was about emulation on the PC.